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Old 02-21-2019, 12:36   #1
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Whats up with Putin

Ever since that idiot hrc hit the reset button with Russia things have gone to hell in a hand basket with them. Are we as aggressive with them as they seem to be with us? I am sure a lot of this goes back to O's lack of testicles.

"I am ready for a new Cuban Missile Crisis if you want one': Putin threatens Trump with a return to the Cold War confrontation that brought the world to the brink of nuclear Armageddon


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wants-one.html
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Old 02-21-2019, 14:17   #2
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Some of the idiots at CNN have done everything but declare war on Russia - been brewing for a while.

Clinton Advisor & CNN Commentator Paul Begala: Trump Should Really Really Consider Blowing Up Russia.
By MICHAEL QAZVINI
Daily Wire
July 13, 2017


The Democratic party has gone from the pro-Soviet Union party to the hardcore anti-Russia party overnight. The left side of the aisle is knee-deep in conspiracy theories regarding President Trump’s alleged connections with the hostile foreign government.

It was only a year ago when Democrats were pushing for a softer, more conciliatory tone with Russia under the Obama administration. Before that, in the 1980s, Democrats were actually reaching out to the Russians for assistance with their political campaigns. But thanks to the donkey party’s hatred for Trump, Russia is now seen as public enemy number one. Things have gotten so bad that we now have Clinton advisors pushing for war with the Russians.

On Wednesday evening, former Bill Clinton advisor, Democratic consultant, and CNN commentator Paul Begala took the Left’s Russia obsession to new heights, arguing that the United States should discuss the prospect of bombing Russia. Speaking to CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Begala justified his position by implying that Russia’s cyber-interference in the 2016 presidential election was an “attack” against America.

“We were and are under attack by a hostile foreign power,” said Begala, “and ... we should be debating how many sanctions we should place on Russia or whether we should blow up the KGB, GSU, or GRU [Russia’s foreign intelligence agency].”

The Democratic pundit added: “If I was Trump, I would be mad because it has tainted his victory.”

Watch as Begala essentially calls for open warfare with the Russians:

Hmmm... uhh... so here's Paul Begala, top Clinton ally, saying Trump should consider bombing Russia. https://t.co/2tW1gI0Uxh pic.twitter.com/wo9BmJPNDb

— Andrew Kirell (@AndrewKirell) July 13, 2017

It shouldn’t take a Russia policy expert to tell you that war with Russia is bad.

By insisting that Trump weigh the pros and cons of bombing Russia, Begala is beating the drums of war in the most insidious way possible. It goes without saying that the United States cannot afford a war with a foreign power like Russia, however nefarious Vladimir Putin’s cyber-attacks may be.

Of course, America can and should go on the counter-offensive and hit Russia with cyber-attacks against Kremlin affiliates and others who work against the interests of the United States. Espionage activities, including the infiltration of Russian government offices by U.S. spies, should be encouraged as well.

However, physical war with Russia is probably the worst move the United States could make in 2017. Any military confrontation with Russia would end in mutual bloodshed and destruction. Despite having a superior military, America would suffer unimaginable losses if it decided to recklessly bomb targets in Russia.

For all of the Left’s moaning about “neocons,” it appears that Democrats are now the ones who are calling for war games.

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Old 02-21-2019, 14:19   #3
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Da, it really is the worst political theater for a post 2016 presidential victory lap! According to the FBI/Muller investigation Trump (the billionaire) is totally owned and compromised by Comrade Putin. Why I’m surprised Vlad hasn’t stepped in to prop up the failing countries of Cuba and Venezuela like he’s been doing Syria.
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Old 02-21-2019, 15:49   #4
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Ever since that idiot hrc hit the reset button with Russia things have gone to hell in a hand basket with them. Are we as aggressive with them as they seem to be with us? I am sure a lot of this goes back to O's lack of testicles.

"I am ready for a new Cuban Missile Crisis if you want one': Putin threatens Trump with a return to the Cold War confrontation that brought the world to the brink of nuclear Armageddon


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wants-one.html
you hit the nail on the head Democrats love to pretend did not happen....Obama and Clinton essentially reconstituted the Russian military with policies they knew would cause issues as we saw in Crimea.....Obama also after empowering Russia began downsizing the European presence and wanted to remove all the M1 tankers in Germany...I thought it started happening....then when Russia invaded Crimea Obama made some speeches but like the socialist pu$$y he is did nothing...even Germany were confused as Merkel and Putin went at it over the Natural Gas Russia had been providing Europe when Russia was down and struggling....then sure enough the Russians did what Russians do they got aggressive....the whole thing smelled of Democrat engineering yet more drama and they are blaming Trump for the issues....but the threat was real and the U.S. has responded the new fight is over Venezuela and Russia threatening to step in if the U.S. gets involved as Trump said he may do.

Funny how the chess game worked out that way...Putin hasn't had another world leader play hardball with him like Trump has
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:31   #5
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....then sure enough the Russians did what Russians do they got aggressive....the whole thing smelled of Democrat engineering yet more drama and they are blaming Trump for the issues....
There's the distillation IMO. Personally I don't think the President has the advisors around him necessary to a "reset" in the opposite direction (see also in the dictionary 'warmongers' of any stripe beholden to the MIC).

While Putin has made it no secret that he loathes HRC, I think he's savvy enough not to let it exaggerate certain actions. I'm not an apologist but, still, the whole back & forth makes me ponder if a fair amount of the way Russia has reacted in recent times with Putin at the helm isn't part of being 'Russian', in a nationalist, Orthodox Christian kinda way. 'Cause they really enjoyed having a border country be subjected to a political coup right before their eyes, and enjoy all the continued krap they take over annexing land to reclaim a maritime navigation path, and really love having a coalition of armed force snugged tighter & tighter up against their border because, throughout history, that's what they really love...
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