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Old 08-05-2020, 09:59   #16
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JJ’s two pictures above needed some perspective.

Apparently I don’t the ability to attach a screenshot from Beirut. So go look at google maps to see the before landscape.
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After looking at these, I think the center mass was on the dock.
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Old 08-05-2020, 13:51   #17
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We will never know if it was an "accident" or someone became a jihadi martyr,,

UNLESS al Arabiya published his name?

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...-Minister.html

2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate
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Old 08-05-2020, 14:43   #18
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Interesting event.

Could have been the Iranians, or the Israelis. Or an accident.

Who does it harm the most and who stands to benefit most from it?

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Old 08-05-2020, 20:25   #19
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Old 08-05-2020, 21:13   #20
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Today in most places around the world and Japan is the 75th anniversary of dropping the bomb.

I hope for the Lebanese people this was just a terrible accident and not an escalation of regional conflict.

My dad used to send tourists to Beirut in the 70s when it was a jewel of the East. So sad...
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Report this AM about a Russian ship that stopped in the port several years ago full fertilizer and being abandoned.

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A Russian ship's cargo of dangerous ammonium nitrate was stranded in Beirut port for years, By Mary Ilyushina, Katie Polglase and Ali Younes, CNN, Updated 7:10 AM ET, Thu August 6, 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/05/europ...ntl/index.html
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A fireworks warehouse next to 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate. Seems crazy until you remember what part of the world we are talking about. It was probably started by some dumb ass smoking or welding right next to all that stuff.
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A fireworks warehouse next to 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate. Seems crazy until you remember what part of the world we are talking about. It was probably started by some dumb ass smoking or welding right next to all that stuff.

for that matter, it could have been someone smoking WHILE welding
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for that matter, it could have been someone smoking WHILE welding
It was a self correcting error.

“Don’t bother running, you’ll just vaporize tired!”
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Interesting event.

Could have been the Iranians, or the Israelis. Or an accident.

Who does it harm the most and who stands to benefit most from it?

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The Chinese and Israelis, they've increasingly been collaborating in business. Assuming the explosion was a weapons/explosives cache, Israel gets its security and China can invest and develop in another port in the Mediterranean. China is now investing and profiting from the development of the Piraeus port in Athens (51% ownership of one of the biggest European ports!). Greece was in financial difficulty and China came, the same will probably happen in Lebanon. China has also been investing in Israeli ports, the Beirut explosion will be another opportunity to expand influence and profits in the Mediterranean.

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Already, Shanghai International Port Group is building a new container port in Haifa, which some U.S. officials believe could be used to conduct surveillance on the U.S. 6th Fleet whenever it ports at a nearby Navy base. Chinese companies are building another Israeli port in Ashdod and a light rail project through the greater Tel Aviv area, which will run a few hundred yards from the Israeli military headquarters. Meanwhile, Chinese companies invested some $400 million in Israeli start-ups in 2018 and $243 million in 2019, according to IVC Data and Insights.

So far, Israel’s concern about strategic threats has been more limited to foes in the region: namely, the so-called Shiite crescent that runs through Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. Even though China supports Iran, Beijing has never been viewed as a factor in the Middle East that could weigh against Israeli security interests.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/16...l-china-deals/
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