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Old 01-28-2020, 13:13   #16
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In the 2003 SARS coronavirus outbreak, 95% of cases and 93% of deaths were in the PRC or areas near China with significant Chinese populations (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Vietnam and the Philippines). The one outlier was Canada, which accounted for 5%-6% of deaths.

A few days ago, an article appeared on globalnews.ca entitled "Doctor on front lines of SARS outbreak says Canadian hospitals prepared for coronavirus". A quote from the article:

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But [Dr. Michael] Gardam says if any cases are reported, hospitals in Canada will be ready.

“Canadian hospitals learned a great deal from SARS, and then we learned more from H1N1 in 2009, and then we learned more after the Ebola scare a few years ago,” said Gardam.

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“Our experience with SARS was that it’s not great to make stuff up as you go along,” the doctor explained.

“We didn’t know what the virus was, we didn’t have a test for it. We didn’t focus on handwashing in hospitals, which is all you hear about over the last decade; we didn’t have stockpiles of personal protective equipment (PPE).

“We didn’t screen people for fevers.”
I'm sorry. Hospitals didn't focus on handwashing until after 2003? Washing your hands is something 21st century health professionals needed to be told?

Is this a Canadian thing? I know hygiene issues are a big problem with disease outbreaks in the Third World, but I did not realize Toronto was in the Third World.
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Old 01-28-2020, 13:31   #17
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Old 01-28-2020, 13:45   #18
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Is this a Canadian thing? I know hygiene issues are a big problem with disease outbreaks in the Third World, but I did not realize Toronto was in the Third World.
Enlightenment is a terrible thing. I’m sure the native Canadians didn’t see it coming either...but then it happened...they became Chinese, Iranian, Turkish, Syrian, and Somalian in just the last 40 years. Toronto is the Paris of North America.
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Old 01-29-2020, 09:42   #19
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If your a male Asian, you might be SoL...

Here's an interesting bit out of a pre-print paper thought granted it is not peer reviewed and is an extremely small data set: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1....919985v1.full


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"We further compared the characteristics of the donors and their ACE2 expressing patterns. No association was detected between the ACE2-expressing cell number and the age or smoking status of donors.

“Of note, the 2 male donors have a higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than all other 6 female donors (1.66% vs. 0.41% of all cells, P value=0.07, Mann Whitney Test). In addition, the distribution of ACE2 is also more widespread in male donors than females: at least 5 different types of cells in male lung express this receptor, while only 2~4 types of cells in female lung express the receptor. “

“This result is highly consistent with the epidemic investigation showing that most of the confirmed 2019-nCov infected patients were men (30 vs. 11, by Jan 2, 2020)."

"We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area."

"The result indicates that the ACE2 virus receptor expression is concentrated in a small population of type II alveolar cells (AT2). Surprisingly, we found that this population of ACE2-expressing AT2 also highly expressed many other genes that positively regulating viral reproduction and transmission. A comparison between eight individual samples demonstrated that the Asian male one has an extremely large number of ACE2-expressing cells in the lung"
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Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?

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In light of growing speculation, most of it within less than official circles, that the official theory for the spread of the Coronavirus epidemic, namely because someone ate bat soup at a Wuhan seafood and animal market...... is a fabricated farce, and that the real reason behind the viral spread is because a weaponized version of the coronavirus (one which may have originally been obtained from Canada), was released by Wuhan's Institute of Virology (accidentally or not), a top, level-4 biohazard lab which was studying "the world's most dangerous pathogens", perhaps it would be a good idea for the same Wuhan Institute of Virology to remove the following "help wanted" notice, posted on November 18, 2019, according to which the institute is seeking to hire one or two post-doc fellows, who will use "bats to research the molecular mechanism that allows Ebola and SARS-associated coronaviruses to lie dormant for a long time without causing diseases."
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Radio talk show host, Chris Plante, called it Kung Flu this morning.
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Old 01-30-2020, 04:59   #22
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In the 2003 SARS coronavirus outbreak, 95% of cases and 93% of deaths were in the PRC or areas near China with significant Chinese populations (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Vietnam and the Philippines). The one outlier was Canada, which accounted for 5%-6% of deaths.

A few days ago, an article appeared on globalnews.ca entitled "Doctor on front lines of SARS outbreak says Canadian hospitals prepared for coronavirus". A quote from the article:


I'm sorry. Hospitals didn't focus on handwashing until after 2003? Washing your hands is something 21st century health professionals needed to be told?

Is this a Canadian thing? I know hygiene issues are a big problem with disease outbreaks in the Third World, but I did not realize Toronto was in the Third World.
In the lead up to the 1997 handover of Hong Kong, there was a wave of Chinese who gained residency and citizenship in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and USA as a hedge against PRC heavy handed ness in Hong Kong, with the biggest single clusters in Vancouver, Sydney, Auckland, and LA/San Francisco.

A generation later, with the wealth boom in Mainland China, many Chinese decided to hedge their bets in western countries buying real estate “life boats” and sending their kids to be educated in the same locations theirs aunts/uncles/cousins set up a generation prior.

Based on those really strong network connections, those are the places I suspect have some of the highest risk of viral “break-in” to 4 of the FVEY.

Just my amateur anthropological 0.02c
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Old 01-30-2020, 07:13   #23
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Radio talk show host, Chris Plante, called it Kung Flu this morning.
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I started a new thread with this announcement of a Harvard Prof's arrest for selling bio info to china as it was to tin foilish,,

Maybe not??

Does it need to be moved to this thread?

https://www.professionalsoldiers.com...ad.php?t=54633
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Old 01-30-2020, 15:13   #24
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So WHO has finally declared an international healthcare emergency. Which changes absolutely nothing. It’s been one since the first h2h outside of China.

The human-to-human transmission in the US also means nothing...the new case is in the spouse of the confirmed Chicago infection. Your ears should perk up when there are reports of new infections with no known connection to a confirmed case. That means some undiscovered infection locus is out there.

The Ro, virulence, and future course of this disease are all unknowns with conflicting reports and prognostications.

The fact is nobody knows what is going to happen. The next month should give you a feeling for where this is going. It’s either going to start tapering off, in which case we have the equivalent of another bad case of the flu going around, or it’s going to explode.

So...frequent hand washing, increased avoidance of risky social interactions, and reasonable preps for the worst case, if it develops.
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Old 01-30-2020, 15:31   #25
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The fact is nobody knows what is going to happen. The next month should give you a feeling for where this is going. It’s either going to start tapering off, in which case we have the equivalent of another bad case of the flu going around, or it’s going to explode.

So...frequent hand washing, increased avoidance of risky social interactions, and reasonable preps for the worst case, if it develops.
Sounds solid, given the CHICOMs have earned their place in the Top-2 probably in the category of draconian information control.
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Supplies are already drying up. N95 masks are out of stock at a lot of places. Hand sanitizer too. If you have not stocked, now might be the time to get off your duff.
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This Doc does some pretty good analysis on the virus.

I've watched a few of his earlier ones.

https://www.*******.com/watch?v=nW3xqcGidpQ
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A virus similar to the Chinese Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) was engineered at UNC around 2015 and researcher #8, listed in the study - is listed as one “Zheng-li Shi” attached to*the*“Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences,*Wuhan, China.”

I'm not certain of the validity of the following linked article, however, it makes sense and sounds as if this may be a case of research gone wrong......


Another Chinese virologist, Xing-Yi Ge, appears as an author on the 2016 UNC paper and is also attached to the lab in Wuhan. Previously in 2013, he’d*successfully isolated a SARS-like coronavirus from bats which targets the ACE2 receptor, just like our present virus, the Wuhan Coronavirus 2019-nCoV.

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I'm not certain of the validity of the following linked article, however, it makes sense and sounds as if this may be a case of research gone wrong......
I tried to get some background on Harvard to the Big House site.

The site leads to Dan Sirotkin on LinkedIn, Twitter, & Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/harvard2thebighouse/
https://twitter.com/Harvard2H

Appears to be a one-man show.
"big house" like-in he did/doing some jail time.
See Maryland SOR entry at the bottom.

Adding what I found,
Making no judgment on this guy,
BUT he resumes is weak??

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Dan Sirotkin
Dan has a account

Writer at Harvard to the Big House

Washington D.C. Metro Area 47 connections Contact info

Harvard to the Big House
Harvard University

About

Looking to parlay my 1,300 days of incarceration into a meaningful career in criminal-justice reform.
Experience

Harvard to the Big House
Writer

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Harvard to the Big House
Dates Employed Sep 2018 – Present
Employment Duration 1 yr 6 mos
Location www.HarvardToTheBigHouse.com


Looking to change everything about our criminal-justice system
Seasons 52 Restaurant
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Seasons 52 Restaurant
Dates Employed Nov 2018 – Feb 2019
Employment Duration 4 mos
Location North Bethesda, MD

Three months of service before someone at corporate finally got around to running a background check.
Montgomery County Government
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Montgomery County Government
Dates Employed Jun 2017 – Sep 2017
Employment Duration 4 mos
Location Clarksburg, MD

Correctional janitor trained and certified in hazardous waste disposal on the medical ward. When inmates threw poop at guards, I got to clean it up.
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Educational aide and secretary in my prison's sole classroom serving inmates with educational disabilities, aged 18-22. Mentored, tutored, and imbued hope into fellow inmates.

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Harvard University
Harvard University

Degree Name Bachelor's degree

Field Of Study Political Science and Government

Grade 3.1


Activities and Societies: Two years of wrestling and two years of lacrosse, boxed from sophomore year on until graduation.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-sirotkin-928882180/

needs verification, but hi LinkedIn pic and jail pic are simular
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A former tutor and private athletic coach was sentenced today to seven years in prison for sexually abusing a 14-year-old girl. Daniel Mandel Sirotkin, 30 of Germantown, pleaded guilty in the case against him. Montgomery County Judge Richard E. Jordan sentenced Sirotkin to 35 years but suspended all but seven years. Sirotkin must also register […
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I tried to get some background on Harvard to the Big House site.
Not counting the fact that those of us of a certain vintage enjoy our nappy-poo's, you just did in 8 hours more vetting than was done for murderous Saudi aviation exchange students.
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