05-08-2014, 04:45
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05-08-2014, 06:43
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I think you are going to require several waivers, and this is not a time of many waivers.
You may not even be eligible to join the military, with a GED, a dependent, and history of drug abuse.
IMHO, you will not be offered an SF contract. You will probably have to enlist and soldier your way into a shot at SF.
See a recruiter and take a chance. You do not have to enlist if they do not offer you what you want.
BTW, patterns of misconduct do not generally resolve themselves either.
Best of luck.
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05-08-2014, 14:45
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Thanks for the answer. I heard if I'm paying less than 50% of the money for my child and she's living with her mom that she wouldn't count as my dependent, but I could be wrong. Do you think obtaining a degree will make them more accepting of my GED? Well, after I've gone through university and all, I'm going to do everything I can to get my 18x contract, and see where that takes me. Although serving my country is a huge part of why I want to join the military, I don't feel going into the infantry is for me. If I join the military, I want to try my hardest to be the best I can be, not in a cocky way, but in a mental, physical and psychological way.
I don't know if I'm allowed to ask more questions in my thread. If I can't, I'm sorry.
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05-08-2014, 15:05
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Thanks for the answer. I heard if I'm paying less than 50% of the money for my child and she's living with her mom that she wouldn't count as my dependent, but I could be wrong. Do you think obtaining a degree will make them more accepting of my GED? Well, after I've gone through university and all, I'm going to do everything I can to get my 18x contract, and see where that takes me. Although serving my country is a huge part of why I want to join the military, I don't feel going into the infantry is for me. If I join the military, I want to try my hardest to be the best I can be, not in a cocky way, but in a mental, physical and psychological way.
I don't know if I'm allowed to ask more questions in my thread. If I can't, I'm sorry.
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A college degree usually cancels out a GED
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05-08-2014, 16:02
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Altruist,
In your course of study take a few French classes and when your finished contact the Foreign Legion. They could care less about your background. If you decide that you like Europe you can even stay there legally after your enlistment.
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05-09-2014, 13:23
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Originally Posted by mojaveman
Altruist,
In your course of study take a few French classes and when your finished contact the Foreign Legion. They could care less about your background. If you decide that you like Europe you can even stay there legally after your enlistment.
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Thanks for the advice, but I want to be able to see my daughter as much as possible and she's in the USA, so I don't think that will be plausible. However, I do plan on learning French, although Arabic and Russian are on the top of my priority list for languages I want to learn. Also, I'm set on Special Forces. I obviously can't know exactly what they do, but I know they're doing it for our country while staying in top shape to leave when the time comes. I would be really honored to stand next to them.
Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful advice. I've decided the only way I'll find out if I can do it, is by doing it. So, I'll do exactly that. Have a cheerful day everyone.
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05-09-2014, 16:26
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Thanks for the advice, but I want to be able to see my daughter as much as possible and she's in the USA, so I don't think that will be plausible. However, I do plan on learning French, although Arabic and Russian are on the top my priority list for languages I want to learn. Also, I'm set on Special Forces. I obviously can't know exactly what they do, but I know they're doing for or country while staying in top shape to leave when the time comes. I would be really honored to stand next to them.
Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful advice. I've decided the only way I'll find out if I can do it, is by doing it. So, I'll do exactly that. Have a cheerful day everyone.
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Forget the Legionairres if you want to see your child or want to be married. Just go to college quit smoking pot and if it were me and I wanted to join bad enough unless it is recorded somewhere in legal documents I would say nothing about it.
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05-09-2014, 16:42
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Forget the Legionairres if you want to see your child or want to be married. Just go to college quit smoking pot and if it were me and I wanted to join bad enough unless it is recorded somewhere in legal documents I would say nothing about it.
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We have been through this many times before.
Lying to your recruiter is rarely a good idea and can come back to haunt you.
Tell the truth, do your best, and let the consequences follow.
BTW, if you don't like the Infantry, I am not sure you are going to like SF either.
TR
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05-09-2014, 16:57
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
We have been through this many times before.
Lying to your recruiter is rarely a good idea and can come back to haunt you.
Tell the truth, do your best, and let the consequences follow.
BTW, if you don't like the Infantry, I am not sure you are going to like SF either.
TR
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Ooops should never have written that.
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05-09-2014, 22:04
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
We have been through this many times before.
Lying to your recruiter is rarely a good idea and can come back to haunt you.
Tell the truth, do your best, and let the consequences follow.
BTW, if you don't like the Infantry, I am not sure you are going to like SF either.
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Well, I have plans for my military career after Special Forces, so it's just one task in my big plan. Also, I like the versatility of the Special Forces as well. Why do you think I won't like the Special Forces because I don't like infantry? Are they similar?
Side Note: I will be telling the truth.
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05-10-2014, 00:55
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Well, I have plans for my military career after Special Forces, so it's just one task in my big plan.
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Do Tell.
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05-10-2014, 10:54
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Well, I have plans for my military career after Special Forces, so it's just one task in my big plan. Also, I like the versatility of the Special Forces as well. Why do you think I won't like the Special Forces because I don't like infantry? Are they similar?
Side Note: I will be telling the truth.
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It seems to me that you really don't know very much about an organization that you profess to want to be a part of that could put you in a life or death situation. This isn't Call of Duty.
You do realize that we have missions other than DA, and we are likely to be doing more FID as we shrink ops in AFG, right? Much of what we teach to foreign troops is infantry tactics.
If you were to be fortunate enough to make it to SF Assessment and Selection, your desire to use SF as stepping stone is not going to be adequate to sustain you psychologically through the process. Than you are going to find out what being an infantry soldier is all about. It sounds like you want a Beret and Tab, but are not truly dedicated to the cause. Our process is designed to weed people like you out early on.
Finally, until you see a recruiter and formally ask for the waivers, this entire discussion is moot.
TR
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05-10-2014, 11:00
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I disagree. He has upper middle management written all over him,,,,,
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05-10-2014, 13:30
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
It seems to me that you really don't know very much about an organization that you profess to want to be a part of that could put you in a life or death situation. This isn't Call of Duty.
You do realize that we have missions other than DA, and we are likely to be doing more FID as we shrink ops in AFG, right? Much of what we teach to foreign troops is infantry tactics.
If you were to be fortunate enough to make it to SF Assessment and Selection, your desire to use SF as stepping stone is not going to be adequate to sustain you psychologically through the process. Than you are going to find out what being an infantry soldier is all about. It sounds like you want a Beret and Tab, but are not truly dedicated to the cause. Our process is designed to weed people like you out early on.
Finally, until you see a recruiter and formally ask for the waivers, this entire discussion is moot.
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People like me? Yes, I want to wear a beret, but not for the reasons you'd except. When I have the privilege of putting on the Green Beret, it will be an accomplishment that I'll not only be proud of, but it will also be a relief because I'll know I've made it after all the hard months of training and I'll be on my way to helping others. If joining the Special Forces means teaching others how to fight for their freedom and safety, then I'll gladly do just that. If teaching one person can save their life, then I've saved someone's life and that gives me more joy than any other regular job would. I realize that this isn't Call of Duty and I could possibly die, but I have no problem giving my life to save another's. Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean I'm some kid that wants to join the SF for the action and glory. Honestly, I don't mind the people who tell me I can't do something. I have nothing to prove to anyone except myself, but I know if I get the chance to go to SFAS I WILL make it.
Again, thank you for your consideration and serving my country.
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05-10-2014, 14:14
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P... I'm 16...
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You don't really know what you (will) want to do. Come back in five years to discuss this as you can't even get into the door to try out until then. In the mean time study hard and get good grades, don't do illegal dope, and stay clear of the law man by not breaking the law.
Good luck.
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