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Old 01-11-2019, 16:39   #1
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More Russian Collusion?

Actually not.. But thought the article was interesting.

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Earth’s magnetic poles can wander several kilometers every year, however, the north pole's movement has become increasingly stranger in recent years. For reasons that are currently unclear, the magnetic north pole seems to be increasingly slipping away from Canada and towards Siberia at an erratic rate, according to a news report in Nature.
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Old 01-11-2019, 17:47   #2
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ahh shit, how many maps will the declination have to be changed??? A lot of "mis-oriented" troops ...oh, wait they use GPS stuff now...

Do they even carry maps anymore???
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Old 01-11-2019, 21:12   #3
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Read an article years ago about the N & S poles flipping every million years or so. Theary was the molten core burps and rolls causing the poles to move.

The article spoke of doing core drillings xxxxxxx deep and finding ferrous metals that had been encapsulated pointing in one direction,, then on other layers, they were pointing in another direction.

If that happens today,, lots of GPS and other measurement tools would be whacked.
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Old 01-11-2019, 21:32   #4
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GPS will generally continue to operate as normal, assuming no shift in the overall magnetic field of the earth that would make unstable geosynchronous orbits or drastic magnetic distortion on GPS signals that might create multipath or spurious emissions that upset timing accuracy. (Yeah, the commo guy is claiming ionospheric disruptions are to blame...go figure )

Declination would be trashed..... so if anyone were to actually use map and compass the translation to grid would be problematic. A bit of improvisation and terrain association would fix that up in a jiffy.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:14   #5
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This article really grabbed me, luckily the post pop up while seated in the Firestone library at Princeton University, my first thought was what a gift this is, now I can go over the IAS (Institute of Advance studies), now that I had a valid question, I could waggle my way in. IAS is very well known, but rather secretive, in addition to a rigorous admittance process to study there, which is usually by invitation.

Sizing on opportunity, I immediately call Professor Kolinski, Chair of the astrophysics department, we have had a number of discussions of the years examining everything from the Mongols influence on breadmaking to magnetic cycling not impacting negative force structure in proton atoms, fascinating stuff really, all supposition, but engaging none the less. But, back to the point; Earth's Magnetic poles.

Professor Kolinski was not intrigued by the movement of the poles, in fact, he was a bit annoyed, pointing out the long research he’d undertaken in Warsaw exampling the poles rightful place within the borders of Poland and not at the ends of the earth, where according to Professor Kolinski nature wanders, he questioned the presumption, held by the flat earth theorist that what goes around must come around, as evidence that the wandering Poles were in fact, traveling Poles, were journeying back to their origin, where the poles are the rightful guarding's of the Poles.

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Old 01-12-2019, 17:55   #6
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Here's another article on poles shifting. This guy has a real track record of predictions and an interesting background.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...-a-pole-shift/
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Old 01-12-2019, 23:08   #7
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In another thread, JJ mentioned that it's important not to confuse Butter Bars with map information. Now that's been funny all my adult life, but why is that true? I did a Google search on something today and, as usual, wandered off whatever I was actually searching for (no I wasn't an officer) and ended up reading Lt. Calley's military history. His troops complained that he was deficient in compass/map skills. Why is that? Did OCS, in his case, ROTC, or West Point not teach them LANDNAV?

One thing about the poles shifting: They have to renumber airport runways when the move half a degree.
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In another thread, JJ mentioned that it's important not to confuse Butter Bars with map information. Now that's been funny all my adult life, but why is that true? I did a Google search on something today and, as usual, wandered off whatever I was actually searching for (no I wasn't an officer) and ended up reading Lt. Calley's military history. His troops complained that he was deficient in compass/map skills. Why is that? Did OCS, in his case, ROTC, or West Point not teach them LANDNAV?

One thing about the poles shifting: They have to renumber airport runways when the move half a degree.
I also have theorized this anomaly, And I think it's a miss-think.

Land Nav is a skill and not all "have it" nor can they be trained. This is true for butter bars and PFC's. There is a universal ratio of "have it" to "have nots", across the whole of mankind (and womankind). It's not rank sensitive, or any other filter one applies to a general population..

The butter-bar get the brunt of the jokes because they are tasked with leadership (land nav), while the PFC is not.

I was one of the "have it". I was taught by my older family members to hunt the upper NY Adirondacks as a child and land nav was a must have or get lost asset.

I also have/had an inherent affinity for spatial geometry. EG: I can land nav in the dark because I can "feel the earth"(whatever) and have good night vision. Which earned me the nickname "Scout Hog" in OCS.

Maybe Land Nav should be a pass/fail for officers basic infantry, armour and artillery course?

Or in today parlance, issue butter bars a WII GPS, a lifetime supply of batteries, and a PFC to operate said WII :]

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Old 01-13-2019, 11:26   #9
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I also have/had an inherent affinity for spatial geometry. EG: I can land nav in the dark because I can "feel the earth"(whatever) and have good night vision.
Me too. But, oddly, occasionally I'll be in a place where it goes haywire for some reason. My hometown in OK for example. I've never understood that. In AIT during night land nav, the only point I missed was the one that was 10 paces past the scorer's table.
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Me too. But, oddly, occasionally I'll be in a place where it goes haywire for some reason. My hometown in OK for example. I've never understood that.
Interesting; there have been a few places I've been where my internal nav systems go haywire as well. I always put it down to iron ore deposits, lol, slapped myself & carried on; but, yeah, it's weird when it happens. (Maybe I should put it down to Russians instead...?)
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Old 01-13-2019, 16:32   #11
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If the poles shift too much...

...how are the dancers gonna find ‘em?
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If the poles shift too much...

...how are the dancers gonna find ‘em?
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Duh, momentary brain fart on my part, of course.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:37   #14
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Oh man, the title pulled me in and I thought you were speaking of this:
https://www.newsweek.com/mueller-rep...-1289541?amp=1
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Old 01-14-2019, 15:14   #15
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Russian Collusion?

More BS from the "Progressive" liberal left. Keep your eye on the ball. Disregard the MSM as they are the propaganda disseminators for the radical left.
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