Hundreds expected to participate in Fayetteville Unity March on Saturday

**Pete** · 12-11-2014, 06:01

Hundreds expected to participate in Fayetteville Unity March on Saturday

http://www.fayobserver.com/news/loca...eba995e5e.html

"A Fayetteville man is urging community residents and leaders to come together to demonstrate unity.

About 200 people are expected to march in a peaceful protest Saturday in Fayetteville. The march is aimed to show solidarity and bring together the community, said Swan Davis, an activist who organized the march.

"We just want to show solidarity and recognition of recent national events," Davis said. "We want to build a relationship with our police. We're definitely trying to bridge the gap and be a better community."...."

Got no problem with the march and have no problem with all of you who want to go.

But the march starts at 1:30PM and does the Skibo, Morganton, Mcpherson triangle around the Mall. Traffic sucks on a good day, it's close to Christmas and tons of folks will be headed there for shopping.

If you have to go to the Mall, go early and stay till it's over.

Just driving during that time period? By-pass the Mall area.

Sigaba · 12-11-2014, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Pete

If you have to go to the Mall, go early and stay till it's over.

Just driving during that time period? By-pass the Mall area.

With respect, I recommend that if you intend to go to the mall, plan to leave by eleven or to arrive after seven. Park in a space that will minimize the time it will take you to get out of the lot as opposed to a space closer to your destination inside the mall itself. Ideally, you want to pre-plan a departure route that requires more right turns than left turns, and avoids pedestrian walk ways, main access roads, and parking bays that have ADA spaces. If possible, back in to the parking space. The imagery on Google Maps, if accurate, show angled parking spaces in most areas. Do what you can to avoid them.

Extending one's length of stay at the mall in order to wait out the demonstration may actually make matters worse for both drivers and parkers.

**Pete** · 12-11-2014, 17:26

The parking lot at the Mall hasn't been full since they shot fireworks from the back side in the 1980's.

They've even taken up some of the spots with a new mini mall thingy beside/attached to one of the L legs.

The problem is traffic out on the three roads. There is a state law that you're not supposed to enter an intersection unless you can clear it. It's great sport for many around here to get bumper to bumper and slide into an intersection and block it. So the folks with a cross traffic light gets to sit through a few light cycles while traffic behind them backs up - so they do the same thing when they get moving.

And if you stop on the white line because traffic is stopped just ahead of you, the next lane will fill up and then folks will cut in front of you and fill the intersection anyway.

Best thing would be to treat the protest like a funeral procession. Keep them in the left lane and use squad cars to clear/hold side traffic as they move along. The County Deputies got all that down to a science - but they only do it for funerals.

Sigaba · 12-11-2014, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Pete

The problem is traffic out on the three roads. There is a state law that you're not supposed to enter an intersection unless you can clear it. It's great sport for many around here to get bumper to bumper and slide into an intersection and block it. So the folks with a cross traffic light gets to sit through a few light cycles while traffic behind them backs up - so they do the same thing when they get moving.

Sounds like Lee Jernigan and the traffic services division need to issue a RFP for a traffic study that would be produced by an independent institution. I would bet dollars to donuts that he and his team already have a lot of good ideas to address this issue but sometimes an independent study can help long voiced solutions a wider audience.

**Peregrino** · 12-11-2014, 18:24

Given the character of the "usual suspects" I seriously doubt they'll complete the planned route. It'll probably disintegrate into chaos before it's half over and serve no purpose beyond exacerbating current hostilities.

MtnGoat · 12-11-2014, 21:39

I personal feel the business show have these protesters asserted and the cities should be charging them with protesting with out permits or not on a "public forums." Cities don't stop these they only turn into the ones like in Ferguson or California.

**Box** · 12-11-2014, 22:15

I recommend folks go to the mall in Raleigh in the morning and stay all day. The mall in Fayettenam sucks ass anyway so why not get out of town and save yourself a headache.

stfesta · 12-13-2014, 08:40

The march is aimed to show solidarity and bring together the community, said Swan Davis, an activist who organized the march.

Here's a great idea to show solidarity with Police Officers......obey the fucking law.

Don't try to beat up a police officer, don't burn down your town when said police officer defends himself.

I have never had an issue with the police. Could it be because I am a middle age white male? I bet it has something more to do with the fact that, I obey the fucking law.

Yes, stay away from that nasty ass mall. I try to avoid it no matter what the season.

Just my $0.02
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**Pete** · 12-14-2014, 06:50

It appears they had a good size crowd for around here.

You have to watch the video clip as they were pretty strung out and thin on the ground.

http://www.fayobserver.com/news/loca...b6f3023d0.html

Traffic signals trip pretty fast around the Mall so maybe someone might have been delayed one turn on the lights.

SF_BHT · 12-14-2014, 08:31

Did not look like any other march. the makeup of the crowd was very one sided...

**The Reaper** · 12-14-2014, 13:58

I guess I am someone who doesn't get it.

I have teenage children. I have taught them to respect the law, and comply with instructions from officers. Wrongs can be redressed later. In court, if necessary. My son was stopped while walking through our neighborhood with a friend. He did as instructed, did not challenge the officer, and in three minutes, was on his way. I guess I should be upset that he was stopped for "walking while white."

Obey the LEO and save yourself the consequences. Is your show of bravado, disrespect or hate really worth your life?

White people breaking the law were killed by the cops this week too. No problems there, I guess.

Black people killed by the hundreds by other black people. No big deal, no public outcry. Were their lives less meaningful, or is the cause of death more acceptable?

White people were killed by black people recently in racially-based violent crimes. No issue there. Black privilege?

If you want to peacefully march and protest, that is your right as an American.

I can pretty much guarantee that a lot less people are killed in the vicinity of Cross Creek than a few blocks away in Bonnie Doone. Why not protest there and disrupt crime?

What is the real issue here?

TR