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Old 12-23-2016, 01:32   #16
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You could be right about Coach fares for Gov people, but many Congress critters fly home every week on our dime and with frequent flyer programs end up in first class almost all the time.
Maybe Ivanka and her husband are rich but frugal? They still should not have been harassed and showed more restraint than most people. I know I would have responded in an unkind manor.
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Old 12-23-2016, 08:04   #17
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I'm pretty sure no one in government is allowed to get reimbursed for anything over a regular coach fare. Whether someone with 'elite' tier status is upgraded by the airlines or they pay the difference out of pocket that law was passed years ago.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the law was changed because of the complaints you mention or it was before that.

Now with that being said and although JetBlue is all coach, why would millionaires fly JetBlue when they could buy First Class tickets on Delta, United or my favorite Virgin America?

Then again, I've known lots of rich people that are the most frugal people in the world.

Still, no one should berate another for who they or their families are.
The CEO of IKEA is one of the richest people in the world, but apparently he was always big on flying coach, leading by frugal example.

It would be interesting to know if the Trump family have displayed any changes recently in terms of travel(say previously first class, but now economy as a sign of alignment with their voter base....or just a question of short term need/availability reducing options).

Anywho, much better outcome than if Ivanka was in first class and being chastised more effectively.

Good news it was just a pair of morons who telegraphed their obvious agenda.

If this were the current First Family back when they were First Family Elect, it would have gotten quite ugly as content for race baiters if it were a pair of rednecks.

In any case, totally unacceptable behaviour by members of the public towards family members of elected politicians.
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Old 12-23-2016, 16:19   #18
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The CEO of IKEA is one of the richest people in the world, but apparently he was always big on flying coach, leading by frugal example.
It also helped to move his company out of his socialist home country of Sweden.
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Old 12-24-2016, 14:50   #19
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Imagine the uproar if anyone said a cross word to Michelle and the kids while she was flying commercial.

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You mean to tell me there wasn't a single uneducated white trump supporting racist on that airplane to cause trouble? Deplorable!
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I'm pretty sure no one in government is allowed to get reimbursed for anything over a regular coach fare.
At least as recently as 2004, State Department folks assigned to embassies were booked in business class or better.
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At least as recently as 2004, State Department folks assigned to embassies were booked in business class or better.
That was 2004...

http://www.fec.gov/law/cfr/ej_compil...ce_2009-27.pdf

https://jones.house.gov/press-releas...st-class-using

These laws may or may not have been passed but I assure you the ethics committee and travel agents live by it.

Hell, I don't know...I don't know everything but I try to know a lot.
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Old 12-25-2016, 06:51   #23
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That was 2004...

http://www.fec.gov/law/cfr/ej_compil...ce_2009-27.pdf

https://jones.house.gov/press-releas...st-class-using

These laws may or may not have been passed but I assure you the ethics committee and travel agents live by it.

Hell, I don't know...I don't know everything but I try to know a lot.
I once had an ambassador and his DCM pissed all the time with me. They like all of us had to fly economy but when one of them got on the plane I would usually be in business. The Ambo actually made a scene one night as why one of his people was in business and he was not. They can be petty people. The rules were the rules..... He told them. They told him he is following the rules and they upgraded me as I had so many mile with them and they did it as a courtesy. At that time I was on the road 20+ days a month around south and Central America.....

He even went so far as to call me into his office to discuss it.

Every one outside of congress has had to book coach unless the flight was 18+ hrs for years. There were a few exceptions but they were scrutinized closely. I never demanded or asked for upgrades but would gladly take one if offered. I was pretty tight with most of the counter reps for 3 airlines down there. They still remember me and take care of me on my personal fights like now.
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Every one outside of congress has had to book coach unless the flight was 18+ hrs for years. There were a few exceptions but they were scrutinized closely. I never demanded or asked for upgrades but.
Some do...

I can tell you which Washington state critters sit where.

Patty Smurf (D) First Class (Can't even take her assigned seat)
Norm "Lying Blowhard" Dicks (D) First Class
Jim "No Yellow Cake" McDermott (D) First Class
Adam "OhBamaCare!" Smyth (D) First Class (when he can)

Dave "I caught the Green River Killer" Reichert (R) Coach
Cathy "I was almost Interior Secretary" McMorris (R) Coach (unless)

Does anyone see a pattern here?

And as a side note I remember getting upgraded by Northwest my last return from Cobra Gold 2001 while my team and TL and others sat in the back. I also remember thinking this will be the last time I spend hours flying around the world for work. The rest they say is history...
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