06-20-2014, 05:41
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So, 300 plus one?
...coincidence?
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Didn't we ban that guy?
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06-20-2014, 06:18
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Just read an article on CNN where the writer uses a quote from a highly qualified source (some Marine sergeant) who asserts that the advisors will be composed of Navy SEALs and Army Rangers, as they are the best fighters the US has. Seriously. 
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06-20-2014, 11:44
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So, 300 plus one?
...coincidence?
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Please don't put Ms. Pelosi's pic up again here.
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06-20-2014, 12:19
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TR, you may have just hit the nail on the head with that one. If they're captured, they're trade material and voila - Gitmo's emptied and a campaign promise is fulfilled.
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I'm surprised the White House has not called you for a strategy meeting.
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06-20-2014, 14:05
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If they're captured, they're trade material
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That's the new E&E plan. Keeps support costs to a minimum.
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06-20-2014, 14:58
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As Allen West said ..."Obama is a magician. Yesterday he stated he was deploying 300 advisors to Iraq. Today the White House announced they are already there -- presto chango hopeo and voila! Boy howdy, this guy is good."
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06-20-2014, 17:24
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IMHO TR has summed it up very well. Knowing how big of lies that Obama and John Kerry tell, there is a very high probability of disaster of this type of deployment. The explosive politics of the Iraqi government is not going in the right direction. It is hard to ADVISE a military force on the run.
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06-21-2014, 15:15
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I doubt that many outside of the military share my opinion, but I consider the members of our military to be one of our greatest national treasures and I do not believe they should be spent in such a reckless manner.
To those who get tapped for this one; I will be praying for your safe and speedy return. Stay Hard.
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06-21-2014, 16:15
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I doubt that many outside of the military share my opinion, but I consider the members of our military to be one of our greatest national treasures and I do not believe they should be spent in such a reckless manner.
To those who get tapped for this one; I will be praying for your safe and speedy return. Stay Hard.
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Amen, and well said, sir. I hope the mission and exit strategy are both crystal clear, but there's something tells me neither are. Being the incurable optimist, I continue to hope that this isn't just a political move to give the impression that this administration gives a rats-ass about anything outside the beltway.
Anyway, God bless the 300, and may He see them all safely home.
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06-21-2014, 19:26
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Quote:
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I doubt that many outside of the military share my opinion, but I consider the members of our military to be one of our greatest national treasures and I do not believe they should be spent in such a reckless manner.
To those who get tapped for this one; I will be praying for your safe and speedy return. Stay Hard.
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Couldn't agree more. As TR said this is Iraq's mess, let them clean it up.
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06-21-2014, 23:04
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Originally Posted by Paragrouper
I doubt that many outside of the military share my opinion, but I consider the members of our military to be one of our greatest national treasures and I do not believe they should be spent in such a reckless manner.
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A great many of us outside the military share your opinion, even in places you might not think. We just don't chirp as much as the ungrateful ones.
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06-22-2014, 09:07
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Couldn't agree more. As TR said this is Iraq's mess, let them clean it up.
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Yes let them clean it up. Better yet the Arab League of Nations should be doing it with our diplomatic pushing of them. We have so many military training missions in different Arab countries. Along with civilian corporations also doing military training in many different Arab nations that could come in do what we're going to be doing there. I say support the League, but not this Iraqi POS Goverment. They have been non supportive of our plans, wants and request. So why send in a hand few to show we are in support of one side. Once we align any of our troops, drop one bomb we have aligned ourselves to one ethic group and regionally align ourselves to a point.
You think it's a soup sandwich now, wait in two to four weeks. Some thick chicken soup and rye bread is going to be served very soon by this administration.
TR - I think you point of what is the desired end state is the biggest question. Got to love when asking that and the choir say " Who cares let's just get in." I've been there before, sounds great and all Spartan. But when your a thinker and not just thinking about shooting people in the face. You obtain a different preseptuve. This is more of Strength through War. Is that a good Foriegn Policy?
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06-22-2014, 11:57
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God bless and God hold close and protect the 300 sent in.
This is a mess the Arab league and the Iraqis need to resolve and clean up.
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06-28-2014, 09:30
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WASHINGTON, D.C. - After much legal wrangling between the U.S. and the Iraqi government, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has confirmed the U.S. military will be sending 10,000 green berets to Iraq later this week, Duffel Blog has learned.
At a news conference at the Pentagon, Hagel said he received the directive in a brief phone call from the White House last week, when President Obama told him "to send as many green berets to Iraq as we could." Hagel added, "We were a little puzzled why he didn't want us to send something more useful, like special forces or military advisers, but orders are orders."
"Whatever, they don't pay me to think," he said.
In response to Hagel's statement, the White House spokesman Josh Earnest initially said that there had been some "linguistic confusion." He later added that after careful deliberation President Obama has decided he likes this new plan much better, as it keeps American boots off the ground, and has halted the military's current deployment of 300 barefoot American advisers to Iraq.
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06-28-2014, 21:08
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priceless! Thank you, that was great.
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