11-07-2015, 18:13
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Consigliere
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Concealed Carry Discussion
I am interested in people's thoughts on best practices. 
Let's kick this off with a discussion about how to carry concealed in shorts, a t-shirt, and flip-flops.
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11-07-2015, 18:47
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I am interested in people's thoughts on best practices.
Let's kick this off with a discussion about how to carry concealed in shorts, a t-shirt, and flip-flops. |
What are you going to carry? I carry my wife's .38 Spl in a Remora holster. My .45 would leave me rather embarrassed. 
ETA: This is with elastic/drawstring shorts. With shorts that would allow a belt, I'd stay with my .45 and Crossbreed holster.
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11-07-2015, 19:35
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Originally Posted by PSM
What are you going to carry? I carry my wife's .38 Spl in a Remora holster. My .45 would leave me rather embarrassed.
ETA: This is with elastic/drawstring shorts. With shorts that would allow a belt, I'd stay with my .45 and Crossbreed holster.
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This isn't about me, particularly since I live in a place where carry is prohibited. However, if hypothetically I were to carry, it would be an H&K .40 USP in a Kramer IWB leather holster. 
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11-07-2015, 19:37
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Another carry situation of interest to me, hypothetically only, of course, is the normal "business casual" trousers, with a tucked-in long sleeve dress shirt and belt.
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11-07-2015, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Another carry situation of interest to me, hypothetically only, of course, is the normal "business casual" trousers, with a tucked-in long sleeve dress shirt and belt.
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If you are going to be carrying with a tucked in shirt or without a belt/solid pant's waist, you may want to checkout a bellyband style holster. I have this one from Crossbreed: http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/Ho...d/Default.aspx
It isn't very effective if I am just carrying with a pair of gym shorts because the elastic is not strong enough to keep the gun pressed to my body securely, but your mileage may vary.
For those situations, I think a belly band style holster without a separate kydex holster would work better (however, I have no personal experience with any other types of belly band holsters).
The Crossbreed does work quite well for dressier situations when I need to tuck in my shirt.
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11-07-2015, 20:40
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Another carry situation of interest to me, hypothetically only, of course, is the normal "business casual" trousers, with a tucked-in long sleeve dress shirt and belt.
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Well of course, that goes without saying.
My .45 is an HK USP Compact and I have the Crossbreed SuperTuck. Since I got it, I've never had to tuck in my shirt, so I'm not sure how or how well it works. Love the holster, though. I honestly forget that I have it on even without a belt on jeans. And I wear t-shirts all the time. You just have to move it around and find the "sweet spot".
A member on here, Golf1Echo, visited recently and I'm not sure if he noticed that I was carrying or not. I couldn't tell if he was.
Pat
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11-07-2015, 22:30
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Pocket carry.
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11-07-2015, 20:22
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My Concealed Carry Method
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I am interested in people's thoughts on best practices.
Let's kick this off with a discussion about how to carry concealed in shorts, a t-shirt, and flip-flops. |
For the past six months or so, I've started carrying appendix style in a kydex holster made by Bladetech. Now that I have learned how to carry in this position, I don't think I will ever go back to carrying any other way.
In the past, I carried slightly behind my right hip, at the 4-5 o'clock position.
From the appendix position, my draw is faster and cleaner, I have better access to the gun in the majority of situations, and I find that it conceals better in almost all clothing, including when wearing a simple normal fitting t-shirt and shorts.
I spend much of my time in the hot and humid South, so even during winter, I am wearing shorts and t-shirts rather often.
I have a relatively athletic build. I am 5'10 and approximately 180 lbs. When I am wearing lighter clothes, I typically carry a S&W M&P Shield (9mm) and when I am able to put on layers, I usually cary my Glock 19.
Unless a t-shirt is tightly fitted, I find that I barely print. Even with the Glock, in the appendix position, one would have to be at the right angle and know what to look for in order to spot any outline.
Just my two cents.
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11-08-2015, 22:48
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Originally Posted by Redwood
For the past six months or so, I've started carrying appendix style in a kydex holster made by Bladetech. Now that I have learned how to carry in this position, I don't think I will ever go back to carrying any other way.
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Have you pressure tested this technique by trying to draw when you're fighting off a close-in attacker and are bent at the waist, or do you only practice drawing when you're standing upright?
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11-08-2015, 23:53
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Have you pressure tested this technique by trying to draw when you're fighting off a close-in attacker and are bent at the waist, or do you only practice drawing when you're standing upright?
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Razor, solid point. That's one of the drawbacks to carrying appendix style and I have not tested that draw you described, but I am sure it would be extremely difficult.
I'll try to replicate that position as closely as possible with an inert firearm and see how it goes.
I have trained and and gotten much better drawing from positions on my back and in seated positions (car, chair, etc)-- appendix seems to shine in this regard and I find it telegraphs less movement.
I'd say every carry positions has its weaknesses and strengths. Just like an appendix draw would be hindered by trying to draw while bent at the waist, side carry, small of back, and other positions have their Achillies' heel as well. So far, this is what I feel most comfortable with. What do you prefer?
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11-09-2015, 00:50
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Mine's a Glock 26 in a Kydex in-waistband at 4-5 o'clock position. Carried chambered with HST 147gr +P
Backup in the SUV is a Browning Pro-40 ready in the center compartment.
Spend time on the range regularly practicing left-hand shirt lift and draw to position.
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11-09-2015, 02:35
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I have much success with minimalist holster like Raven concealment with shorts and t-shirt. I've worn it during leadslinging class, competition, and while lifting and jogging. No hth though.
Also had success with desantis sheepskin ankle holster. Takes zillion times practice but finally got it down to <2 sec to "bang" Unless you're paying close attention, I look like someone who's about to duck and run
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11-08-2015, 14:23
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Quote:
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Let's kick this off with a discussion about how to carry concealed in shorts, a t-shirt, and flip-flops.
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Standard Florida carry, if you ask me.
I carry full sized FNS-9, IWB, on my side.. In shorts, with a t-shirt, and Keens (I hate flops). I wear my T-shirts XL... Loose
Florida also has no law against printing, so if it sticks out a bit... It's just my "cell phone". YMMV
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11-08-2015, 16:46
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I am using a Glock Model 43 9mm in a DeSantis Nemesis holster to pocket carry in the warmer weather when a coat would be obvious. I know some people hate Glocks, but I have never had a problem with mine.
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11-09-2015, 15:06
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I pocket carry a .32cal Revolver, x 2"b. You will never know I have it. I also have a .38 cal with and articulated hammer, and 2 1/4" b. It is heavier than the .32 cal, and is really not that good as a pocket weapon. I have a shoulder rig for the .38, but to be honest, I do not like the .38 cal all that much, and generally have it holstered and in my vehicle.
The bulk of the time I carry a Glock 17. I carry it in a Safariland Paddle rig that carries rather high. I can carry it under a Tee shirt with no problems at all. The only thing I need is a belt in my trousers or shorts. I've been doing this for a couple of decades now, and it is well concealed.
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