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Old 09-28-2019, 13:23   #391
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CIVIL WAR II:?

I believe the current Civil War in The USA started right after the first one. The population in the United States today is @ 350 million people with approximately 310 million citizens. The ultra liberal "progressive" left now has a slight majority of people that are potential voters; The Democrat Party which is that "progressive" group of voters are staging an all out WAR against the rest of the citizens who RESPECT and OBEY the U S CONSTITUTION. The divisions in this country are so wide and deep that there can be NO PEACEFUL SEPARATION because of irreconcilable differences among EVERYONE in the United States today. The Main Stream Media, Progressives, Democrats, and The Deep State Parasites have come together in an alliance to wrest all of the POWER that lies in the Government Agencies. Today there is a Second Coup being played out by the Enemies of the Constitution that will continue to its successful resolution or its defeat. My .02 cents. If you read this and are unsure! SEE the following on u-tube "MARK MY WORDS" by John Mark. The Liberal left has caused this dichotomy that we are facing now and they are doing everything within their power to strengthen the proliferation of false narrative for the prospect of an imminent split among the population in the USA. The epicentre of the resistance to the duly elected POTUS is the lawyer lobbies in Wash.DC. and the deep state parasites hiding in the three letter agencies who get away with this treason because there is no push back on the "Overton Window". The ideas and actions of the left are so extreme because there is no punishment melted out to the individuals and groups causing the schism, the social media has amplified our tribal instinct, incentivizing all of the "progressive liberals" to wage a non-stop war against their ideological rivals. This conflict will not have a peaceful ending.
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Old 09-28-2019, 21:06   #392
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SEE the following on u-tube "MARK MY WORDS" by John Mark.
I enjoyed his discussion on the advantages the Grass Roots Right might have.

However he missed the potential of AI (Think Terminator) and who is most likely to use AI to their advantage. Big Tech(Google, Facebook, etc), which leans hard left, is already using algorithms to censor speech, determine what is news worthy and their devices spy on their users. Facebook is working on a cryptocurrency to sidestep existing currencies. More and more it appears Big Tech has created it's own form of government where they are the Judge and Jury.....and their executioner is just over the horizon.
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:32   #393
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Another interesting summary on the state of the culture and the threat from an astute observer.


The Death of American Citizenship
By VICTOR DAVIS HANSONSeptember 26, 2019 6:30 AM
National Review

Open borders and sanctuary cities are blurring the distinction between illegal immigrants and Americans, and activist judges are eroding the Bill of Rights.

The American Founders institutionalized the best of a long Western tradition of representative government, with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. These contracts outlined the rare privileges and responsibilities of new American citizens.

Yet the concept of citizenship is being assaulted on the premodern side by the legal blending of mere residency with citizenship.

Estimates on the number of undocumented American residents range from 11 million to more than 20 million. The undocumented are becoming legally indistinguishable from citizens and enjoy exemption from federal immigration law in some 500 sanctuary jurisdictions. An illegal resident of California will pay substantially less tuition at a California public university than will a U.S. citizen of another state.

Multiculturalism has reduced the idea of e pluribus unum to a regressive tribalism. Americans often seem to owe their first allegiance to those who look like they do. Citizens cannot even agree over once-hallowed and shared national holidays such as Christmas, Thanksgiving, and the Fourth of July.

It is eerie how such current American retribalization resembles the collapse of Rome, as Goths, Huns, and Vandals all squabbled among themselves over what was left of 1,200 years of Roman citizenship — eager to destroy what they could neither create nor emulate.

Citizenship has always been protected by the middle classes — on the idea that they are more independent and self-reliant than the poor but can stand up to the influence and power of the elite.

Yet until recently, we had seen a decade of stagnant wages and entire regions ossified by outsourcing, offshoring, and unfair global trade. Historically, with the demise of the middle class, the end of constitutional government follows.

But citizenship also faces a quite different and even greater postmodern threat.

Many of our coastal elites see nothing very exceptional in America, past and present. They prefer the culture and values of the European Union, without worrying that the EU’s progressive utopian promises have been wrecked by open borders, economically stultifying regulations, and unapologetic and anti-democratic efforts to curb free expression and local autonomy.

Often, such “citizen of the world” mentalities fuel shame over the origins and traditions of America. Transnational organizations and accords on climate, criminal justice, and human rights are seen as superior to their American counterparts.

A new progressive iconoclasm seeks to destroy statues, rename streets and buildings, and wipe away art that does not reflect more-global values.

Does voting — the bedrock right of the democratic citizen — matter that much anymore? In California, tens of thousands of votes were “harvested” by paid campaign operatives. There was also abuse in state agencies in sending out voter-registration forms to those who were not legally entitled to vote.

Lone activist federal judges frequently overturn legislation and referenda they find contrary to their own political take or legal theory — without worrying that they are thereby canceling the votes of millions in a nanosecond.

Meanwhile, the proverbial “swamp” of the bureaucratic, administrative, and regulatory state is so vast and unaccountable that a few clerks can harass entrepreneurs; issue edicts with the force of legislation that ruins lives; and indict, regulate, or audit a targeted individual into legal bankruptcy.

In recent years, we have seen a cake maker, a video maker, and a national-security adviser so hounded by federal bureaucrats that they either were nearly bankrupted, ended up in jail, or were reduced to penury through legal costs.

We still have a Bill of Rights, but many of our constitutional protections are being rendered impotent. If a rural family cannot find ammunition at the local Walmart or gun store because of organized boycotts and threats to such establishments, then the constitutional right to bear arms is not always exercisable in a practical sense.

Brett Kavanaugh was nominated, audited, and confirmed by the Senate as a Supreme Court justice. But if the New York Times and cable news can relentlessly charge without proof that nearly 40 years ago he was a teenage sexual pervert, then a distinguished judge can be rendered impotent without legal impeachment.

If a student cannot safely express opposition to abortion on demand, question the global-warming narrative, or object to safe spaces, trigger warnings, and race-based theme houses on campuses, does it matter that in theory we still have a First Amendment?

We are unwinding at both ends. Tribalism, the erosion of the middle class, and de facto open borders are turning Americans into mere residents of a particular North American region between Mexico and Canada.

Yet even more dangerously, thanks to the fiats of unelected bureaucrats and officials, along with the social-media lynch mobs who boycott, harass, and shame us, our constitutional rights are now increasingly optional. They mostly hinge on whether we are judged worthy by an unelected, politically correct, and morally righteous elite.

In theory, American citizenship remains the same; in reality, it is disappearing fast.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...n-citizenship/

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Old 10-26-2019, 08:49   #394
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Interesting ******* site

Go to ******* and search for John Mark page. He has some great insights on this subject.

The last one is on the concept below and this institution.

https://propertarianism.com
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:01   #395
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All political means to resolve this have failed.

Which means that the only solution is not political, an act of force.

Which implies that the restriction on 2A rights is a precursory action by the left, prior to a non political - negotiated settlement, to lessen any resistance, which will be the last stance for freedom in America.
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Old 10-28-2019, 10:57   #396
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2nd AMENMENT:

The parasite Democrats and the RINO'S in the U S Government Agencies that want Globalism for the U S must be defeated at the ballot box. The Radical views and ideas that the Democrat Presidential candidates are pushing for this socialist state that they envision have failed to remove the the estimated 400 million guns in the hands of some 80 million people in the U S Today. Bob Beto O'Rourke has implicated in certain language what he thinks of OUR RIGHT, not privilege, to own and use guns ,Outright confiscation.
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Old 10-28-2019, 11:53   #397
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...this socialist state that they envision...
Indeed; 'cause here's what it looks like after.
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Old 10-28-2019, 15:35   #398
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The parasite Democrats and the RINO'S in the U S Government Agencies that want Globalism for the U S must be defeated at the ballot box. The Radical views and ideas that the Democrat Presidential candidates are pushing for this socialist state that they envision have failed to remove the the estimated 400 million guns in the hands of some 80 million people in the U S Today. Bob Beto O'Rourke has implicated in certain language what he thinks of OUR RIGHT, not privilege, to own and use guns ,Outright confiscation.
TK.. add that to the elimination of the electoral college and you have the exact thing that the founders intended to avoid happening.

For a bunch of "old guys" they were quite good judges of the nature of "man" in the evolution of the "state".

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Old 10-29-2019, 06:49   #399
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TK.. add that to the elimination of the electoral college and you have the exact thing that the founders intended to avoid happening.

For a bunch of "old guys" they were quite good judges of the nature of "man" in the evolution of the "state".

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Colorado being a good example of the move to to change the electoral college by giving those votes to the winner of the popular vote. The democrats of course voted this in during one of their late night sessions by their slim margin and governor pollis signed it to law, never mind the fact the electoral college was intended to protect states like Colorado from a lack of representation at the Federal level in regards to greater populated States.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.den...ular-vote/amp/

What could go wrong? Oh wait...
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...deral-lawsuit/

Remember “Acorn” efforts of democrats and their “community organizers” to increase their voting rolls?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124182750646102435
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The beginning of end of this despicable cultural clash is raising its hand for common sense and real understanding, for the choice you get to make and the outcome you would prefer.

"Dave Chappelle on freedom of speech for comedians in the U.S. while accepting the prestigious Mark Twain Prize for American Humor on Sunday."

"(I) don't get mad at 'em, don't hate on 'em," he said while discussing comedians he knows to be racist. "Man, it's not that serious. The First Amendment is first for a reason. Second Amendment is just in case the First one doesn't work out."

Simple truth tends to refocus peoples attention. If the comic's in the USA begin doing their stick correctly, we are in for a good time.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:43   #401
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Note the time.....

It's 11:44 a.m. ET, and the House dems just crossed the Rubicon.
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It's 11:44 a.m. ET, and the House dems just crossed the Rubicon.
The whole thing is a sham. A total dog and pony show to cover for Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Devon Archer (Barisma/Kerry associate), Greg Craig (Obama associate), Tad Devine (Sanders associate), Tony Podesta (Clinton associate), Mark Penn (Clinton associate), John Alzone (Obama associate), and Alexandria Chalupa (DNC), and practically the whole Obama Administration, along with the supposed "misplaced" Billions that Biden promised to withhold from Ukraine unless Victor Shokin was fired. What also rupulses me, is one of (Schitts) star witnesses, Colonel Vindman. What I'd like to know (why doesn't Mrs Lindsay Graham subpoena his azz) - Did Colonel Vindman violate the federal leaking statute*18 USC 798,*when he leaked the president’s classified phone call to several other operatives? Vindman admitted this during his opening testimony/statement - that he "tampered with" and tried - but failed, to "alter the transcript of President Trump’s call to the Ukrainian President." Wouldn't his actions be considered treasonous and seditious, and shouldn't he be prosecuted according to article 94 the UCMJ?
This whole charade is disgusting. Hopefully Durham will put a stop to this soon.....
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Old 11-01-2019, 06:50   #403
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Break Contact!

I see this whole impeachment nonsense as HC smoke and heavy fire in the general direction at a vastly superior force that is pinning down a tactically inferior element whose only hope is that they get out of the kill zone alive.

The commies under obama used the CIA, NSA, and FBI to SPY on the opponent's campaign and administration. As such, the Trump administration has figured it all out, and is in the process of laying the scunyon on the commies, and with it's base of fire in place (the Horrowitz report) are in the process of conducting a bold flanking maneuver (Barr-Durham criminal probe).

I'm watching for the lift / shift signals once the base of fire has fully suppressed the commies in the kill-zone and then hopefully the final assault with bayonets fixed ends up with multiple bad actors (comey, brennen, biden, clintoon, and obama) in orange jump-suits.

The attack only works when / if the break-contact fails, (with the assistance of msnbc, cnn, and wapo shooting mortars to assist the break contact) and right now, all I'm seeing is ineffective fire and a lot of smoke from the commies being directed at a Rifle-Company sized attack with supporting fires (Fox News, Brietbart, and Independent Investigative Journalists conducting counter-battery and containment fires).

But maybe I'm just a Grunt, trained to carry a radio, working an Ops Job.
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I see this whole impeachment nonsense as HC smoke and heavy fire in the general direction at a vastly superior force that is pinning down a tactically inferior element whose only hope is that they get out of the kill zone alive.

The commies under obama used the CIA, NSA, and FBI to SPY on the opponent's campaign and administration. As such, the Trump administration has figured it all out, and is in the process of laying the scunyon on the commies, and with it's base of fire in place (the Horrowitz report) are in the process of conducting a bold flanking maneuver (Barr-Durham criminal probe).

I'm watching for the lift / shift signals once the base of fire has fully suppressed the commies in the kill-zone and then hopefully the final assault with bayonets fixed ends up with multiple bad actors (comey, brennen, biden, clintoon, and obama) in orange jump-suits.

The attack only works when / if the break-contact fails, (with the assistance of msnbc, cnn, and wapo shooting mortars to assist the break contact) and right now, all I'm seeing is ineffective fire and a lot of smoke from the commies being directed at a Rifle-Company sized attack with supporting fires (Fox News, Brietbart, and Independent Investigative Journalists conducting counter-battery and containment fires).

But maybe I'm just a Grunt, trained to carry a radio, working an Ops Job.
I LOVE the analogy and IMHO you are spot on! Just waitin' locked and loaded in my assigned ambush position.
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I LOVE the analogy and IMHO you are spot on! Just waitin' locked and loaded in my assigned ambush position.
It might take a final assault with bayonets, but I'd prefer an Arc Light with BUFFs myself. I love fireworks!! Mix of napalm and high explosive. "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning!!"
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