America's Second Civil War

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I assume you mean BLM and ANTIFA, they have been the only racist nazi type groups that have been inflicting harm for some time.

Agreed

This is likely true, however they have been importing 3rd worlders who will be more than pleased to do the lefts bidding.

The 3rd world folks and criminals aren't loyal to Democrats they are parasites taking the freebies the left is to ignorant to understand these folks are more likely to take the snowflake lefts stuff than fight with the armed right....the left is defenseless if they lose influence they have neither warriors nor the aggression to fight they are like the wimpy kid who runs his mouth only when someone is around to protect them but run like a runaway slave when the protection is gone.

[GratefulCitizen]

The far left is suffering from some severe Dunning-Kruger effect when it comes to potential violent conflict.
WRT to violence, Dunning-Kruger delusions are pretty common among most people when emotions are high.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

The 3rd world folks and criminals aren't loyal to Democrats they are parasites taking the freebies the left is to ignorant to understand these folks are more likely to take the snowflake lefts stuff than fight with the armed right....the left is defenseless if they lose influence they have neither warriors nor the aggression to fight they are like the wimpy kid who runs his mouth only when someone is around to protect them but run like a runaway slave when the protection is gone.

That is true, you can see it happening in Sweden and other parts of Europe. The poor migrants are increasingly isolating themselves, upping their demands and inflicting harm on those that welcomed them with open arms. It's like a little lovable puppy, that when full grown becomes a neighborhood nuisance and then draw blood on a neighbor.

If you actually fearful that those label the radical right or alt-right, you are not paying attention, you watch too much CNN, it is possible you are currently enrolled in an Institute of Higher Learning or you are locked in a wacko liberal echo chamber. All in all the so-called radical right/alt-right is a red herring, a more realistic portrayal of these type individuals and groups can be found in the Blues Brothers movie and actor Henry Gibson.

The true evil doer's, those with very divisive and sinister agenda, who you should be paying attention too are groups like Occupy Wall Street, BLM, AntiFa, groups like MoveOn.org and Academia. And it is these entities that have been pushing a White Man Bad agenda for several decades. It is these entities that promote violence. It is these entities that are tied to crimes that are associated to a persons ethnicity or politics.


Are there only white males the only group of males who are angry??? I have a hunch I can find a equal number angry males who are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern, Eastern European and Native-American....Just a hunch!

But Academia just keeps keeps stoking the fire....

University of Kansas to offer course on 'Angry White Male'

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Are there only white males the only group of males who are angry??? I have a hunch I can find a equal number angry males who are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern, Eastern European and Native-American....Just a hunch!

But Academia just keeps keeps stoking the fire....

University of Kansas to offer course on 'Angry White Male'

You are right and that is the divisiveness of leftist media that I point out frequently to others...its never just people or criminal it is a minority vs a WHITE police officer......I too know a lot of people not just white guys who are angry and sick of the leftist constant bombardment against good, decent and rational people trying to build something not just whites

I find the Devils playbook to be old and predictable unless you are an activist it seems....the strategies used by leftist is right out of history on how to divide and conquer a nation, bring the people to desperation through policy that degrades society, propose fixes for manufactured problems, people vote away freedoms to fix the problems they fear for than anything...look at Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago the politicians are destroying the civilization created in those cities

[Soot]

The radical, lunatic fringe left gets way too much attention, primarily because right wing "media" (Daily Wire, Daily Caller, Newsmax, etc...) drums them up to be much more of a problem than they really are.

They're a bunch of unemployed college kids demonstrating (obnoxiously maybe, but still just demonstrating) and a handful of rogue freshman congress members who have zero real power.

99% of the left are simply social liberals who want to go to work, raise their kids and live their life. 99% of freshman Democrat congress members are moderates.

The "civil war" is as much a pipe dream on the right as on the left. A small minority of leftists who wants to overturn the apple cart and make America socialist, and an equally small number of those on the right who want to shoot them for it.

We won't see a hot war in our lifetime.

[tom kelly]

Who really controls the military? POTUS, The 4 Stars, The BCT Commander, The NCO's, The Captains on the Nuclear Boats, The pay grades E-1 to E-6? Remember it only took 17 people to overthrow the Czar of Russia! The Deep State actors inside Washington DC's Beltway tried and failed. All politics are local & IMHO it will not come to Armed Conflict, watch the outcome of the Chicago mess with the State's Attorney and "The Hate Crime Victim Jesse smallett" The post-Muller exoneration of Pres. Trump and the recent criminal referrals to the Justice Dept. The Inspector General Horowitz report & criminal referrals for prosecution regarding the FISA warrants abuse of power, and the group of people who were part of Robert Muller's 2-year investigation into Russian Collusion. Today Jullian Assage was arrested in London and will be extradited to the U S. A top Democrat power lawyer was indicated in Wash. DC and there will be more to follow. Stay Aware & Be Ready, Just in case my opinion is wrong.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Soot

The radical, lunatic fringe left gets way too much attention, primarily because right wing "media" (Daily Wire, Daily Caller, Newsmax, etc...) drums them up to be much more of a problem than they really are.

I must assume you consider a plot to remove a duly elected President based on a fictional information no big deal, and the persons and groups that committed these crimes a minor threat.

Originally Posted by Soot

99% of the left are simply social liberals who want to go to work, raise their kids and live their life. 99% of freshman Democrat congress members are moderates.

Making those claims is like someone claiming that 99% of the people driving Toyota Prius and Kia Soul's are social liberal.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by Soot

They're a bunch of unemployed college kids demonstrating (obnoxiously maybe, but still just demonstrating) and a handful of rogue freshman congress members who have zero real power.

We won't see a hot war in our lifetime.

Yeah that guy James Hodgkinson who shot Rep. Scalise (R-LA) at a congressional baseball game was an unemployed 66 year old living in a van instead of his mom’s basement. And that guy in Las Vegas that shot all those “Rednecks” at a county music festival...and...and all those other so called “social liberals” who engage in armed/weaponized violence against other people simply because they exercise a different approach to “free speech and the first amendment.”

And with the majority of today’s “antiFa” movement made up from members formerly known as: Anonymous, OWS, N30 - aka WTO riots in Seattle, the Weather Underground Organization, Symbionese Liberation Army and others. On the other side of what has become BLM we had the Black Panthers, Black Power, Black Nationalism movements that have all generally remained the same with the same string pullers and financiers.

If you think the radical left is not capable of starting a shooting war you haven’t been paying attention the last 50 years.

Not “if” but “when” maybe not my lifetime either and that will be a disappointment personally because I love a good guy with a gun vs. an asshat with a gun gun fight. History has and will prove again that in the end the good guys win...just ask Hitler.

[tonyz]

In the land of misfit toys it’s very easy to forget that as recent as 2016 this country was a whisker away from electing an organized crime boss - who cheated by gaming the primary - to beat the communist..

Had that happened...AT LEAST two Supreme Court Justices would have been seated by Hillary which would have severely curtailed - if not essentially gutted - the Second Amendment. The Fourth Amendment...silly people...that pesky 4th is only for the party in power.

The First Amendment would have essentially been policed by Google and CNN...

Jim Comey and his ilk would have been running unlawful surveillance on the opposition political party forever more...

Attorney General Loretta Lynch would have blessed all this shit...

...ANYONE named Trump, related to Trump...used the word Trump...would have been taken down by a new series of fake dossiers and many many others would have probably been woken at 4:00 a.m. during some no-knock raid. That’s just how FBI and Justice seemed to roll during this time why would it be any different under Hillary?

Comey and Peter Strzok would have been named to head some GIANT super secret national police organization...because RUSSIA !

Naaahh...nothing would come from this loss of individual liberty and the extreme government intrusion into our everyday lives...

Prolly cuz...we’d all be figuring out how to survive the Green New Deal and learning to speak Chinese as Hillary would have sold every national asset she could...to the highest bidder...

No one would have ever known about the IRS, DOJ, FBI unmasking, surveilling, denying rights to American citizens...because again RUSSIA ! Any journalist caught investigating and reporting on these series of violations of individual liberty by an ever-growing all-seeing all-knowing government would be labeled as committing treason.

Yeah...those leftists are basically harmless, misunderstood, unemployed nobodies without any money or power and they are really only seeking whirled peas...how many fingers?????

[Badger52]

Word.

I keep thinking back to something CSB said awhile back.

"I suspect that the advice "find the socialists and kill them" would be discarded as being simplistic."

[Paslode]

Soots description is actually very good description of the so-called radical, lunatic fringe right that the Left wing media and every Democratic administration starting with the Clinton Administration has demonized and persecuted.....

The Branch Davidians, The Tea Party, The Hutaree and The Bundy's. All who may have been on the SPLC Hatewatch list, all who may be a little nutty, but none to my knowledge ever caused a riot, destroyed property or caused harm to another person. Yet despite the benign nature of these groups, the Democratic Administrations used the power of the government against them with extreme prejudice, and the Left wing media fanned the flames.

In comparison BLM, OWS and AntiFA have destroyed property, caused harm and terrorized others............the government's response..........Stand down.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Paslode

The Tea Party . . . all who may be a little nutty . . .

Seriously? the Tea Party? The new Quiet Majority who cleaned up after their rallies unlike the Lefty's. Sigaba, is that you?

[TOMAHAWK9521]

Originally Posted by tonyz

In the land of misfit toys it’s very easy to forget that as recent as 2016 this country was a whisker away from electing an organized crime boss - who cheated by gaming the primary - to beat the communist..

Had that happened...AT LEAST two Supreme Court Justices would have been seated by Hillary which would have severely curtailed - if not essentially gutted - the Second Amendment. The Fourth Amendment...silly people...that pesky 4th is only for the party in power.

The First Amendment would have essentially been policed by Google and CNN...

Jim Comey and his ilk would have been running unlawful surveillance on the opposition political party forever more...

Attorney General Loretta Lynch would have blessed all this shit...

...ANYONE named Trump, related to Trump...used the word Trump...would have been taken down by a new series of fake dossiers and many many others would have probably been woken at 4:00 a.m. during some no-knock raid. That’s just how FBI and Justice seemed to roll during this time why would it be any different under Hillary?

Comey and Peter Strzok would have been named to head some GIANT super secret national police organization...because RUSSIA !

Naaahh...nothing would come from this loss of individual liberty and the extreme government intrusion into our everyday lives...

Prolly cuz...we’d all be figuring out how to survive the Green New Deal and learning to speak Chinese as Hillary would have sold every national asset she could...to the highest bidder...

No one would have ever known about the IRS, DOJ, FBI unmasking, surveilling, denying rights to American citizens...because again RUSSIA ! Any journalist caught investigating and reporting on these series of violations of individual liberty by an ever-growing all-seeing all-knowing government would be labeled as committing treason.

Yeah...those leftists are basically harmless, misunderstood, unemployed nobodies without any money or power and they are really only seeking whirled peas...how many fingers?????

Add to that their latest vehicle, "Red Flag Laws". This is a flagrant violation of the Constitution dressed up as a feel good step "to save the children!"

Thank God I no longer live in Colorado, now Commie-rado. It blows the mind to think how far that state has gone into decline.

[Ret10Echo]

A decision to affix an American flag graphic to the side of freshly painted Laguna Beach police cars is dividing residents who are alternately praising the image as patriotic or panning it as too aggressive.

Are you KIDDING ME?

“It feels very aggressive.”

The chasm continues to widen.....


HERE

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by PSM

Seriously? the Tea Party? The new Quiet Majority who cleaned up after their rallies unlike the Lefty's. Sigaba, is that you?

If you recall Sigaba finds merit in HRC, and he went the Orange Man Bad route

I look at the Tea Party as normal folks. The rallies are civil, they use Port-a-Pots, they clean up after themselves. Whereas Left rally is summarized with filth and human waste.

However from the Left's perspective the answer is a resounding YES, anyone who embraces the filth of free market, limited government, and fiscal responsibility.....and maybe some religion is a bit of a loon!

And they were persecuted by the IRS as such.

Here are a few bits on the Lefts perspective....

It’s no mere coincidence that the states responsible for putting the most Tea Party representatives in the House are all former members of the Confederacy. Of the Tea Party caucus, twelve hail from Texas, seven from Florida, five from Louisiana, and five from Georgia, and three each from South Carolina, Tennessee, and border-state Missouri.

https://www.laprogressive.com/tea-party-radicals/

The appeal to Colonial times and the original patriots had some racial overtones and comparisons to States' Rights and the Confederacy. Many of the tea party ideas have been less than tolerant of women's rights and religious freedom. The proponents for smaller government at the federal level have also been the most restrictive and regressive at the state level. The tea party has attracted some radical allies in Congress and the media that have undermined the original intent and destroyed much of its credibility.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/t...-movement.html

To the Left the Tea Party represented "Radical Constitutionalism"

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/m...idealab-t.html