02-10-2004, 19:27
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Why 9/11
Any thoughts on why that date, if there is a reason?
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02-10-2004, 19:30
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No reason is apparent to me.
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02-10-2004, 20:03
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I can't remember where I read it or heard it, but I thought there was speculation on some connection with the group "Black September". Date was significant in some way for that group.
edited: Found it:
September 6 and 9.
At the beginning of September 1970, the activities of the leftist Palestinian organizations in Jordan turned into open defiance of King Hussein himself. On September 1, a failed attempt on Hussein's life was made while he was on his way to the Amman airport. On September 6, members of the Popular Front hijacked three planes: A Swissair plane and a TWA plane were hijacked to the airport in Zarqa, and an additional plane, belonging to Pan American, was hijacked to the Cairo airport. Three days later, a British plane was hijacked, and
brought down near Amman. The passengers were held hostage. The hijackers demanded the release of Palestinian prisoners in various countries. A spokesman for the Popular Front said in Beirut that the hijackings were carried out in order "to teach the Americans a lesson, because of their long-standing support of Israel."
Yasser Arafat did not condemn the hijackings, which aroused an international protest against the Palestinians. Hussein knew that the international community would now be more sympathetic toward a decisive battle against the Palestinian organizations, and that Nasser - who wanted to promote the Rogers Plan - would be less supportive. The Jordanian king quickly lost control of his kingdom.
At the height of the drama of the hijacked planes, the Palestinians declared the area of Irbid in the north of the country a "liberated region," and announced that they were preparing for "the showdown."
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02-10-2004, 21:09
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Before getting too into this, don't forget that for Osama and his minions, it wasn't September 11, 2001 AD, it was 23 Jumada al-thani, 1422 A.H.
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02-10-2004, 21:31
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Quote:
Originally posted by Airbornelawyer
Before getting too into this, don't forget that for Osama and his minions, it wasn't September 11, 2001 AD, it was 23 Jumada al-thani, 1422 A.H.
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Do they ever have problems making sure their taxes are done by the right date?
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12-11-2009, 12:40
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Could it have been a symbolic gesture to the learned scholars of the Ummah - that this attack, would signify the continuation of a very long war - since the tide of Islam was pretty much halted September 11, 1683 ?
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12-11-2009, 13:11
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Could it have been a symbolic gesture to the learned scholars of the Ummah - that this attack, would signify the continuation of a very long war - since the tide of Islam was pretty much halted September 11, 1683 ?
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Holy necropost, Batman!
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12-11-2009, 13:13
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Agree with T-Rock and TR.
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12-11-2009, 13:24
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Sorry…LOL… 
The threads that go way back are very interesting, I have much to learn…
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12-11-2009, 13:31
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Many treasures to be found in the oldies but goodies here...
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12-11-2009, 13:33
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And I've always thought it was something as simple as "911" ("help, I've fallen and I can't get up").
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12-12-2009, 08:43
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I believe it was the date in history that the Muslim Hord was beaten by a Polish army at the gates of Vienna, thus ending Islam's attacks on Europe.
From the Wiki Article: "The Battle of Vienna (German: Schlacht am Kahlenberg, Polish: Bitwa pod Wiedniem or Odsiecz Wiedeńska, Turkish: İkinci Viyana Kuşatması, Ukrainian: Віденська відсіч / Viděns'ka Vidsič) took place on 11 and 12 September[1] 1683 after Vienna had been besieged by the Ottoman Empire for two months. Was a battle of: some of countries, later related with so called "Holy League" (at that time without Russia) versus the Ottoman Empire and vassals of the Ottoman Empire. The battle marked the beginning of the political hegemony of the Habsburg dynasty in Central Europe.
The large-scale battle was won by Polish-Austrian-German forces led by King of Poland John III Sobieski versus the Ottoman Empire army (and the Ottoman vassals armies) commanded by Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha".
Just another point that these muslim extreamists have been at war with the Western World for a lot longer than we have been at war with them.
Just my thoughts.......
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12-12-2009, 10:42
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Most people are unaware of the role of the Poles in preventing the Muslim horde from overrunning all of Europe.
They showed up at the critical moment as the Austrians were beseiged and in dire straights, leaving their own country unsecured in order to fulfil their promises. Thank you, King of Poland John III Sobieski, for your service and sacrifice.
I wonder who, if anyone, will save Europe from the religion of peace this time?
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12-12-2009, 10:45
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Geert Wilders is doing some heavy lifting. If only more would listen...
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12-21-2009, 01:37
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Most people are unaware of the role of the Poles in preventing the Muslim horde from overrunning all of Europe.
They showed up at the critical moment as the Austrians were beseiged and in dire straights, leaving their own country unsecured in order to fulfil their promises. Thank you, King of Poland John III Sobieski, for your service and sacrifice.
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I ran across this series, "The Siege of Vienna" - and it goes into detail of the role the Poles played, five videos of which are posted here:
http://www.unpopularopinion.org/2/po...of-vienna.html
Good stuff !
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