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Old 07-09-2009, 18:15   #1
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Jordanian Kills Sister in Honor Killing

Police: Jordanian Man Stabs Sister to Death in 'Honor Killing'

Thursday , July 09, 2009

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AMMAN, Jordan —
A Jordanian man stabbed his sister to death with a dagger in an "honor killing" because of rumors she was dating a man, a police official said Thursday.

The 24-year-old farmer, who turned himself in and confessed to the killing, was charged with murder, the official said.

An autopsy showed the victim, who was 27 years old, was four weeks pregnant, he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to journalists.

The man said in his confession that he killed his sister because he heard rumors she was dating a man, the official said.

In some conservative areas of Jordan and elsewhere in the Middle East, people disapprove of an unwed woman having any relationship with an unrelated man and consider it to reflect negatively on her family.

An average of 20 Jordanian women are killed annually in slayings that are known as honor killings because the perpetrators say they believe their actions will restore their family's community standing.

The government has battled the problem with harsher sentences for perpetrators.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,531124,00.html
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Old 07-09-2009, 23:22   #2
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20 women a year? Who are they trying to kid. I bet the real number is a lot higher then 20. What a dirtbag. If he went after the guy, then maybe I would have the slightest bit of respect for him, but to stab his sister. Frigging shitfingers!
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:10   #3
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Muslim honor killing? Really... I didnt see that coming.
Its tragic that the poor woman was born to such a loving family.
...and some how America is "arrogant" for assuming that we can make the world a better place. Bring back the caliphate!
I reckon the "infidels" should just mind our own business. Move along infidels nothing to see here.....


Godspeed, RIP ma'am and mercy upon you and your unborn child.
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Old 07-10-2009, 22:02   #4
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What a beautiful and peaceful religion.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:27   #5
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What a beautiful and peaceful religion.
Religion had absolutely nothing to do with this. And true Islam does not condone this sort of thing. You should know better than that.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:39   #6
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Religion had absolutely nothing to do with this. And true Islam does not condone this sort of thing. You should know better than that.
If Islam is so against it why are the courts in Islamic parts of the world so tolerant of Honor killings?

You can get more time for killing a dog in the US then you would for killing your sister in Jordan.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:55   #7
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If Islam is so against it why are the courts in Islamic parts of the world so tolerant of Honor killings?

You can get more time for killing a dog in the US then you would for killing your sister in Jordan.
It depends on where you are on the map, brother. While your statement might hold true in an Arab country like Jordan, the same can't necessarily be said about Muslims in Ethiopia, who have been living in harmony with Christians for hundreds of years. It has everything to do with the Arab culture, which has greatly contributed to the distorting of a religion that is not much different than Christianity.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:59   #8
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... It has everything to do with the Arab culture, which has greatly contributed to the distorting of a religion that is not much different than Christianity.
So you say it is the Arab Culture and not Islam?

So there are no "Honor Killings" or stuff like that in Indonesia?

Or are the peoples of Indonesia Arabs?

More news on the Peaceful religion of Islam

"Nigerian troops attack Islamist mosque, kill 100"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090730/...geria_violence

"......Militants seeking to impose Islamic Shariah law throughout this multi-religious country attacked police stations, churches, prisons and government buildings in a wave of violence that began Sunday in Borno state and quickly spread to three other states in mainly Muslim northern Nigeria.

It is not known how many scores of people have been killed, wounded and arrested. Relief official Apollus Jediel said Wednesday that at least 4,000 people have been displaced by the fighting......"
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:47   #9
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It has everything to do with the Arab culture, which has greatly contributed to the distorting of a religion that is not much different than Christianity.
Pakistanis and other Southwestern Asians are not Arabs, are they?

Yet Muslims there are largely violent and intolerant of other faiths.

What about Muslim Phillipinos, Somalis, or Indonesians?

I believe that universally, the religion advocates violence against non-Muslims, to include other "people of the book". The only difference is the degree to which it is pursued.

The difference between Christianity and Islam appears to me to be about a thousand years of evolution, and a peaceful theology as taught by Jesus Christ versus the violence practiced and advocated by Mohammed. Have you studied who he was and how he came to found the religion?

I don't think Muslims are buying into that Coca-Cola commercial. About the only thing they have in common with Christianity is the Old Testament and monotheism.

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Old 07-30-2009, 06:47   #10
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Muslims in Ethiopia, who have been living in harmony with Christians for hundreds of years.


Yup we're all going to meet on that hilltop and sing.

If I'm being facetious, just blame it on my "Walt Kowalski" personality.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:01   #11
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A well sourced article on honor killing and honor suicide is available at Honor Killing
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:28   #12
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Muslims living in harmony in Ethiopia...yeah, sure.....
When last in Ethiopia after the civil war we attempted to bring the northern new country of Eritrea (Muslim and seceeded from Ethiopia rather than continue fighting amongst fellow rebel factions once Menjistu and the Russians were defeated...a perfect example of G warfare without outside assitance BTW) closer to the Ethipoian Govt. (pred Christian) without success.
The Muslims did not trust the Christians Ethiopians.
There are presently constant border clashes between the two and the faction up North is providing assistance to Somali Muslim factions.

Honor killing and Islam are totally intertwined...Muslim women are property and by the tenets of Islam, not worth as much as a man. Women stoned to death for infidelity (sharia) and the man whipped (sharia) one dies the other survivies.

Honor killing and Islam reside in the same vessel.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:01   #13
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Religion had absolutely nothing to do with this. And true Islam does not condone this sort of thing. You should know better than that.

Religion had EVERYTHING to do with this. it's the LAW.

Read the attachment and deny that it is ISLAMIC LAW.


If you'd like, I can include proof that this is a certified true translation from:
- Imam of the Mosque of Darwish Pasha (Syria)
- Mufti of the Jordanian Armed Forces (Jordan)
- President of the International Institute of Islamic Thought and Member of the Islamic Fiqh Academy at Jedda
- General Director of Research, Writing and Translation of the al-Azhar Islamic Research Academy

Don't tell us this isn't TRUE Islam.

Either you don't know - or you are practicing al-taqiyya (also spelled Taqiyya [2] and taqiyyah [3])

Either way - we're not buying what you're selling.


The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's
beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a
time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from
physical and/or mental injury." A one-word translation would be
"Dissimulation." [1]

"Nine tenths of religion is taqiyyah (dissimulation), hence one who does not dissimulate has no religion." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.110) [3]
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[1] http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html

[2] http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Ta...-for-Allah.htm

[3] http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/shia_taqayyah.htm
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:22   #14
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It depends on where you are on the map, brother. While your statement might hold true in an Arab country like Jordan, the same can't necessarily be said about Muslims in Ethiopia, who have been living in harmony with Christians for hundreds of years. It has everything to do with the Arab culture, which has greatly contributed to the distorting of a religion that is not much different than Christianity.
Looks like you need to go back and doooo a lot of research. Your post does not hold water.

Next time you wish to post something so out there you need to go back and fine tune your SA. A large majority of us on this site have walked the walk and lived the life in our work in these Islamic countries. Your statement just shows us that you are not aware and informed. Arab is not a religion. Islam is...... Sharia Law is ? For What religion? The Majority of Islamic believers are not Arabs. Where is the Largest Islamic Population? It sure is not in Saudi Arabia.....
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:30   #15
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HOT OFF THE PRESS...

Just posted today...how timely...

http://business2.maktoob.com/2009000...ng/Article.htm

News Crime Saudi women changes plea to avoid stoning
Jul 29, 2009

A woman accused of adultery in Abu Dhabi changed her guilty plea after a court judge warned her confession carried a sentence of death by stoning under sharia law, UAE daily the National reported on Monday.

The case against the Saudi woman, referred to only as R.M., was brought by her father at Abu Dhabi's Criminal Court of First Instance, the newspaper said.

"You have the right to deny," the judge was quoted as saying, following woman's admission. "The Prophet urged people towards denial in these cases."

Married and divorced men and women who commit adultery face the death penalty by stoning under sharia law. Under the same law, premarital sex is punishable by 100 lashes.

Four reliable witnesses must testify that adultery took place in order to convict a person that denies the charge. *

The woman's co-defendant, an Emirati man, referred to only as S.M., faces the same charges. He was not in court.

A verdict will be announced on Tuesday.
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* Why are 4 witnesses required? It's the LAW.

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