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[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Here are three of my home builds. They all have the appropriate number of compliance parts and FFL registered receivers..

The latest addition: FALainstein, started with an Imbel kit, DCI upper, salvaged wood, and IDF Trilux SUIT L2A2 scope.

http://jj-bpk.phanfare.com/show_imag...ion=6&rend=WEB

My Little Friend: Started life as a Hungarian AMD-65 kit, extended barrel 16", ACE stock, and Knilling fiddle case,, just because...

http://jj-bpk.phanfare.com/show_imag...ion=6&rend=WEB

My 1st AK built: Screwed Romanian G kit,, w/DCI receiver

http://jj-bpk.phanfare.com/show_imag...ion=6&rend=WEB

BPK
Nice FAL. I was thinking of picking up an AK with my stimulate the Economy gift money from the Government. Do you know of a manufacturer on line to order one from. Not some top of the line $2000 AK. But a decent mid level one.

[triQshot]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

BPK
Nice FAL. I was thinking of picking up an AK with my stimulate the Economy gift money from the Government. Do you know of a manufacturer on line to order one from. Not some top of the line $2000 AK. But a decent mid level one.

Are you looking for a cheap plinker? Or something that goes full auto?

I picked up my AK for 400, got 2 30 round mags with it. Its got the bayonet lug, cleaning rod, and 3 point flash compensator on the end. Wood stock and grips. Its also got the grenade launcher sights on it, so if you want to have a real big BOOM, you can. Its an import from Century Arms.

This link is the one I bought...

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetai...rod=RI1285%2DX

Its a plinker so I don't mind shooting "wolf" in it. Not a bad price either.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

BPK
Nice FAL. I was thinking of picking up an AK with my stimulate the Economy gift money from the Government. Do you know of a manufacturer on line to order one from. Not some top of the line $2000 AK. But a decent mid level one.

I'm not a x-spert,, 3 builds puts me at entry level,, I learned everything I know from the different weapons fora. I also purchased most all the bit-n-pieces from the forums.

I purchased imported kit's, which up until lately were complete with out the receiver. and cheap. There has been a change and kits are now being imported with the barrel cut. This has caused prices to sky-rocket. There are a couple very good receiver manufactures in the US,, some not so good, I like DCI and of course DSA.

These AK's ran around 250-350 USD, complete. The fal kit 200 USD and the receiver 450 USD, compliance parts 150 USD.

None of these are "collector" grade,, that would double/triple prices,, FOR THE KITS..

If you have the time,, moderate WECSOG abilities,, and a couple friends with experience, building your own is very satisfiying..

The 2nd best way to find a good buy is the gun show rout. BUT be advised,, there are people buying and selling crap. You need someone the knows what to look for and what to avoid.

Again, you need an experienced guide..

Probably the biggest problem with purchasing from a home builder, is the compliance parts. Depending on the make/model you must have 6 to 8 America made parts,, and there is a finite list of what parts are allowed. An example,, you get a point for an American made barrel,, but no points for an American made sling. Generally, barrel, receiver, muzzle brake, HTS, stock parts (GF, PG, butt stock), gas piston, bolt, & carries are the major compliance parts.

Compliance parts differ by gun. SO does the minimum number of parts.

Looks like you get around, I see your on AR15, Glock and a couple others..

Bake to your question,, immerse yourself in the AK,, there are literally hundreds of models,, made in just about every country, the BATF will only allow certain imports with lots of restrictions..

Brands: IDF Galil, Valmet, VEPR, Norinco, Arsenal, WASR, Vector arms, Saiga, Krabs,,, that's about 20% of the better ones.

Just about any make/model that was build well is good to go,, will last years,, eat just about any ammo,, and is cheep...

They are not,, accurate,, the AK was designed for conscripts and on the cheap.

The FAL serves to this day in at least 10 countries,, at one time over 130 countries issued the FAL FN in several forms.

The US Army/Marines came within 2 inches of accepting the FAL in the early 1950t's,, but the McCarthy era "not invented here" isolationism squelched the purchase..

For my money, the FAL is one of the best battle rifles ever built,, and it uses an adjustable gas piston,, hint hint hint,, and the 7.62x51 cartridge,, one very sweet combo..

A well built FAL is in the 1K USD range,, or you can go to DSA..

IF YOU CAN FIND ONE,, an original T-48,, 3-5K USD

Try to get a range session on any you purchase..

Homework,, read lots,, find a friend...

Hope I answered your question..

Good Luck

.

[HOLLiS]

JJ BPK, I agree on building your own. Some kits are not to much of a problem.

The one below, that required a bit of work. It had to be converted to a closed bolt system and a semi-auto firing group to be able to fire it.

I have another one I am working on. I have the close bolt conversion figured out, it is the semi-auto firing group that I need to design. it is a RPD.

I have built a number of AK 47's and 74's, a 1919 browning Conversion , a few Uzis, and some others. Goofs where converted to dummies. Surprisingly there is a market for dummies (Yep pun intended)


This the MG42, WWII gun, with closed bolt conversion and AR 15 semi-auto firing group. A note; it can not be made to fire full auto.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...75/MR42wTP.jpg

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by HOLLiS

This the MG42, WWII gun, with closed bolt conversion and AR 15 semi-auto firing group. A note; it can not be made to fire full auto.

Hollis,, I'm very impressed,, Hope you don't mind, but I took a peek at your other pic's and spotted your work shop,, very professional looking.

As we live on an island, in the middle of the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary, inside The National Great White Heron Bird Refuge, inside a Key Deer endangered species area, and 6 other endangered mice, butterflies, bats, snakes, & the only North American Crocodile endangered species area,,,

I don't get a lot of range time....

Nearest range is 180 miles NW in the Banana Republic of Maima..

And thanks to FEMA and their hurricane rules, I can't even have a work shop..

So, I make do with what I can do on the kitchen table.. Not much,, but keeps me happy..

Thanks for sharing..

[Archangel]

Update on the Mk12 Mod 1

ACOG TA31DOC (Minus the DOC)
Falcon Menace 4.5-18 x 56mm in Larue SPR mount

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by triQshot

Are you looking for a cheap plinker? Or something that goes full auto?

I picked up my AK for 400, got 2 30 round mags with it. Its got the bayonet lug, cleaning rod, and 3 point flash compensator on the end. Wood stock and grips. Its also got the grenade launcher sights on it, so if you want to have a real big BOOM, you can. Its an import from Century Arms.

This link is the one I bought...

http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetai...rod=RI1285%2DX

Its a plinker so I don't mind shooting "wolf" in it. Not a bad price either.

I am not looking for a custom build or anything. But I also don't want a piece of junk. Right now I am torn between buying an AK or a PTR91. Both have rail systems available to upgrade optics. Here is the one I am looking at but with a folding stock.
http://www.ptr91.com/product_pages/ptr91kfm4.html

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

I am not looking for a custom build or anything. But I also don't want a piece of junk. Right now I am torn between buying an AK or a PTR91. Both have rail systems available to upgrade optics. Here is the one I am looking at but with a folding stock.
http://www.ptr91.com/product_pages/ptr91kfm4.html

Kgoerz give Blaine at Atlantic Arms a call. He carries a bunch of really nice AK's that won't break the bank.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/prog...ew.asp?CatId=2

[dr. mabuse]

Finally got some FALs and a Springfield Garand to round out the collection.

Surprised how accurate they are with the right ammo, especially the Israeli style DS Arms FAL.

[dr. mabuse]

If this is the wrong spot for these pix, mods please move.

The pictures were taken in July of 98 on the left coast.

Pardon the poor quality. Small Canon pocket camera before digital. Enjoy.

Extra credit if you can identify the tie bubba is wearing.

[dr. mabuse]

More pix...

[Air.177]

I got nothing on the tie, but that's either Stembridge gun rentals or the folks who handled their collection before it got broken up and sold off.

Good times,
Blake

[dr. mabuse]

Good eye. Syd and Larry let me cruise around awhile while they where testing the mini for "The Matrix". Recognize anything from any movies?

[kgoerz]

Well I finally got my stuff back from the D#*!ks at the State Department. So I was able to put together my last AR. I decided to keep this one simple and light. I only test fired two Mags thru it at 25 Meters. No problems.
1. Stag Lower
2. LMT Upper
3. Troy Rail
4. LMT SOPMOD Stock
5. D&D Sling Adapters
6. ML2 Aim point
7. Vickers Sling

[lksteve]

Okay, pics of my long guns, my secret weapon and a close-up of the action of said secret weapon...