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Old 04-02-2014, 00:19   #31
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I have seen the back and forth on this for years, there is always going to be a study that supports or does not support the use of every damn thing in existence. I have cycled through test 6 times over the last 10 years, my blood work is good, I'm healthy, I still run around outside the wire in Afghanistan at 8k feet with ODA's at 47. I believe it works when properly taken, I have known dozens of other men in the same situation with the same outcome. I believe the retarded amount of running I did on active duty will have more long term negative effects than test will. If you are going to use than you should use under a Dr's care, it is more expensive but it's legal. If you do not have a job that requires you to stay in shape then do not use it. If you're unable to get a hard on go to Bogota for a weekend.
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Old 04-03-2014, 20:14   #32
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What Hacksaw said.

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Better living though better chemistry!!
Indeed! Required since 1-1/2 of the boys is still in a ditch in Kajur, Afghanistan.
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Old 04-05-2014, 12:13   #33
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For those interested, it might be worth trying to raise T levels naturally before going the medical route.
Read about a guy who tried this by changing diet and lifestyle.

Total T went from 383 ng/dL to 778 ng/dL and free T went from 7.2 pg/mL to 14.4 pg/mL in 90 days (4 months later total T was 826.9 ng/dL).
Despite a diet high in saturated fat, his cholesterol levels were excellent, too.

The page won't link, but the article can be found with a google search: art of manliness testosterone

In addition to the stuff he did, I've heard mushrooms and pomegranates have strong aromatase inhibitors in them.
This could be helpful to those carrying excess body fat.

Natural route might not work for everyone.
But, it's certainly a low-risk experiment.
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Old 04-05-2014, 14:17   #34
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For those interested, it might be worth trying to raise T levels naturally before going the medical route.
Read about a guy who tried this by changing diet and lifestyle.

Total T went from 383 ng/dL to 778 ng/dL and free T went from 7.2 pg/mL to 14.4 pg/mL in 90 days (4 months later total T was 826.9 ng/dL).
Despite a diet high in saturated fat, his cholesterol levels were excellent, too.

The page won't link, but the article can be found with a google search: art of manliness testosterone

In addition to the stuff he did, I've heard mushrooms and pomegranates have strong aromatase inhibitors in them.
This could be helpful to those carrying excess body fat.

Natural route might not work for everyone.
But, it's certainly a low-risk experiment.
Good read.

I was a heavy drinker until 15 years ago and after I quit I immediately noticed a difference in my energy level. Experimented with Tribulus but found that after I used it for awhile I had to take more and more to get the same results. The side effects are noticeable too.

I agree with the author that Testosterone levels can be raised naturally by loosing weight, exercising more and changing your diet. I'm suprised he didn't mention eating raw oysters because they contain a lot of zinc.

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Old 04-05-2014, 16:10   #35
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What Hacksaw said.



Indeed! Required since 1-1/2 of the boys is still in a ditch in Kajur, Afghanistan.
Good to see your mug back here brother
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Old 04-05-2014, 20:42   #36
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Stop eating soy. You might be surprised how many products contain soy.


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Stop eating soy. You might be surprised how many products contain soy.


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Hear, hear.
Soy oil, soy protein, etc.

It's in everything.
I don't let my 6 and 13 year old boys eat soy products.
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