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Old 07-03-2012, 17:22   #1
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Vets push for purple hearts for PTSD.......

This is really unbelievable if it goes thru..........

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...8ZVYmnq5.email

Medals aren't awarded for illness or disease, but for "achievement and valor," said Joseph E. Davis, a VFW national spokesman in Washington, D.C............

HJCOOK,Sir what do you think about all this?..........

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Old 07-07-2012, 12:56   #2
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This is really unbelievable if it goes thru..........

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...8ZVYmnq5.email

Medals aren't awarded for illness or disease, but for "achievement and valor," said Joseph E. Davis, a VFW national spokesman in Washington, D.C............

HJCOOK,Sir what do you think about all this?..........

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Old 07-07-2012, 14:43   #3
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Can't imagine anyone taking that seriously except folks 'hunting' medals for more VA leverage.
I'm getting PTSD from all these PTSD (the phony's like the a holes pushing this) folks pushing PTSD.
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Old 07-07-2012, 15:00   #4
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Can't imagine anyone taking that seriously except folks 'hunting' medals for more VA leverage.
I'm getting PTSD from all these PTSD (the phony's like the a holes pushing this) folks pushing PTSD.
You got that right.......

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Old 07-30-2012, 10:01   #5
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An affront to Purple Heart recipients...but such a lame idea I doubt it will survive. I'm guessing it was initiated by some of the whining non-hacks who have logjammed the system with bogus, questionable or barely legitimate claims over the years.
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Old 08-01-2012, 16:57   #6
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Purple Heart for TBI?

What do you guys think about Purple Hearts for TBI patients? I understand that there would be issues with "medal hunters" with this like there would be with PTSD, but is there enough evidence showing the long term effects of TBI to merit it for consideration? I had a medic friend I deployed with have a bad day in Afghanistan and received two TBIs in a few hours in addition to neck, shoulder, and leg injuries. The TBI has had a longer and greater impact than the others combined. He ended up having to quit his prenursing classes because he could not just memorize things anymore. That has a much greater impact on him that a sore neck or crepitus in the shoulder. Those injuries have appeared to heal much faster and better than his mental injuries...

As far as the Purple Heart for PTSD I do agree that it is an affront to other recipients of the Purple Heart. That being said, I do know some individuals that have PTSD and it affects their life much more than some other wounds that would have qualified for a Purple Heart. I have worked on people who were eligible for the Purple Heart for something that took a few stitches to close and they were back at work in a few hours. However, they were eligible for the Purple Heart and everything that comes with it, whereas a police officer that I know is having a lot of issues and has considered quitting his job on more than one occasion due to PTSD issues. He does not want a Purple Heart and is not trying to claim one by any means, but it is interesting that a minor laceration like I previously described would have far less of an impact on his civilian life than what PTSD has. Is there something that you guys can think of to bridge the gap? Like I said, neither of us are in favor of PHs for PTSD, but at the same time there are true patients who have real issues, some much greater than injuries that would otherwise qualify. My wife is not in the military or in the healthcare field, but she made an interesting comment that it appears that patients with PTSD have a much higher mortality due to their "injury" than to people who had more conventional wounds. I am not sure if that is a statistical fact, but there is something to be said about the astronomical suicide rate and the correlation to PTSD. Any thoughts on the matter?

I am in no way saying I disagree with you guys and I respect your opinions immensely, which is why I am asking questions. Thank you for your time.
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Old 08-01-2012, 20:57   #7
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I was always under the impression that the Purple Heart is awarded when injured by enemy action that was intended to harm or kill, and also can be awarded in the case of friendly action that was intended to do the same (friendly fire).
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What do you guys think about Purple Hearts for TBI patients?
Maybe John Kerry will get three more...
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Old 08-02-2012, 15:12   #9
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Maybe John Kerry will get three more...
SEN KERRY should be "awarded" the Political Turmoil Socialist Dementia anti-medal .

(no offense, honestly, for actual PTSD sufferers)
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:57   #10
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Old 08-06-2012, 13:14   #11
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BT...NAMI...wtf and who tf are they....from their foxhole this is a moneymaker...
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Old 08-06-2012, 13:19   #12
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That's exactly what I suspected.........

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Old 08-06-2012, 14:01   #13
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Award of the Purple Heart Medal.

S/Sgt. Donald J. Fawcett was a medic with MACV-SOG, CCC FOB-2 was killed in Vietnam on 07/03/1966.HE and the other personnel on the helicopter that crashed DID NOT RECEIVE THE PURPLE HEART MEDAL. The casualities were listed as Non-Hostile, Died while missing. The only casuality detail reported was "Air loss or crash over land. The first people to reach the crash site to recover the bodies was 5 days after the incident. Needless to say the recovery team did not perform an extensive investigation on the crash because of the AOR (Area of Recovery) was in HOSTILE Territory, Quang Tin Province. There were no wittnesses to the incident that could confirm any details of the crash.
My Question is; Should the personnel KIA in that crash been awarded THE PURPLE HEART MEDAL? Regard's, TK
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Being from somewhere that doesnt have an award for battle injuries, I may not have a clear picture. However, I have always understood that one has to bleed to get a Purple Heart. Perhaps they should institute a new medal for PTSD. Purple Head?
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Perhaps they should institute a new medal for PTSD. Purple Head?
For a kick in the groin?

As far as the TBI issue goes, that's a tough one and I can see both sides of an argument for and against a PH for those 'injuries' vs 'wounds'...

Does one get a PH if their vehicle is attacked, they're thrown from it w/o being shot or wounded by a frag and suffer a broken leg?

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