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Old 05-23-2006, 10:27   #1
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Thumbs up Under and Alone

by William Queen...true story-ATF agent who infiltrates and patches in with the Mongols OMG over a 28 month investigation over 1998-2000 resulting in 53 indictments and 52 convictions.

I had to fly to Massachussetts for a one nighter and picked this up at the airport bookstore.

260 pages-finished it in 2 hours. What a great read.

Besides the incredible relayance about truely infiltrating a dangerous subculture and society...during the book the author makes casual mention of his time as a Special Forces Soldier in Vietnam-receiveing the Silver Star in 1971.

I thought him being an SF guy particularly interesting-the situations he faced and was able to overcome-truely a testament to his character and the 50lb shiney brass cojones he has dangling between his legs. He shows good on our heritage and legacy as a community.

Awsome story-would make one HELL of a movie.

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Old 05-23-2006, 11:45   #2
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His Silver Star is quite a story.
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Old 05-23-2006, 13:37   #3
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I read that book earlier this year...very good, easy read. Like Eagle said, this guy was very adept at thinking on his feet to deal with potentially life and death situations. He also mentions the hardships living UC placed on his family, and the difficulty he faced of not 'becoming' his cover story. The big take away for me, though, was a new understanding of just how dangerous OMCs (or other, organized gangs) can be, and how many resources they can utilize.
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Old 05-23-2006, 14:50   #4
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Awsome story-would make one HELL of a movie.
The movie is in production, Mel Gibson will be playing Mr. Queen.

Under and Alone is a great book, very informative, and entertaining. Undercover work must be nerveracking as it is, but with these guys for 28 months? Mr. Queen must have ice-water running through his veins.
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Old 05-23-2006, 15:07   #5
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His Silver Star is quite a story.
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Old 05-23-2006, 15:12   #6
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Thanks, Eagle. Just ordered it.
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Old 05-23-2006, 17:58   #7
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If you liked the book you might enjoy this interview:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4618645
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I think that he was at CCN!! I'll see what I can find about him.
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Old 05-23-2006, 18:32   #9
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6 August 1971, Recon Team Kansas.

Couple links.

http://armyparatrooper.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1642

http://www.ultimatesniper.com/View_N...0TEAM%20KANSAS
(article is derived from Maj. Plaster’s book, SOG)

I was sure there was something here in PS but I must be weak today couldn't find it.
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Old 05-23-2006, 18:42   #10
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Also here:

http://www.facesfromthewall.com/1971apr.html

It's about 3/4 way down the page, titled (Remebrance of Bruce Berg by Bruce Rusty Lang)


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Old 05-24-2006, 07:55   #11
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Fully concur!

I read this a year ago and made a specific wish on this board.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ighlight=queen

Billy Queen is a Featured Speaker at this years S.T.I.N.G. Conference in Colorado. I will be attending, especially since one of my Investigators will also be a presenter at the conference. I would highly recommend this conference to any LEO interested in Gangs of all types including OMG's. Send me a PM and I will get you the information regarding the conference.
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Old 06-03-2006, 18:07   #12
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Eagle, thanks for the recommendation.

Read this over the last two days...great book. Particularly liked the way he talked through some of the situations and his decision making, hastily war gaming options to get out of unpredicted and unpredictable situations. Well written, I'd recommend it for entertainment and make it mandatory reading for anyone who does undercover work.

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Read it in one day while sick. Entertaining.
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Bad ass book. Bad ass dude!


The link to his NPR interview was interesting in that he felt the Mongrols gave him more love about losing his mother than the Federal Govt. If true, that is so lame.

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Old 06-12-2006, 18:19   #15
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My cousin was an ATF ASAC in Washington DC (before becoming SAC in another state.) I sent him an email on the link to the book. Seems he knows Bill Queen. I thought that was pretty cool.

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I have not ead the book yet but I do know Bill Queen. We carpooled together when we worked in Washington DC. Have a picture of the carpool buddies sitting at the Directors desk one day when the Director was gone. Have to show it to you some day. Bill Queen was quite a character as you can tell. I've been meaning to get the book. Hope your doing ok out in Nevada. Say hi to your mom for me.

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