Cadre strike back against General lowering standards . . .

[Box]

I think I am lost - I may have walked into the wrong thread - so, this thread is dealing with a tight-kit community suffering from a scandal that seems to prove that standards have been compromised - integrity has been questioned - and the very roots of an institution are now suspect in as much as their top trainers have been letting substandard performers graduate from the program fully aware that they should have never been there in the first place....


Are we talking about Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin, and William Singer or is this still an SFAS thread?
Or is it the same thing?
Or does it even matter anymore?

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Box

I think I am lost - I may have walked into the wrong thread - so, this thread is dealing with a tight-kit community suffering from a scandal that seems to prove that standards have been compromised - integrity has been questioned - and the very roots of an institution are now suspect in as much as their top trainers have been letting substandard performers graduate from the program fully aware that they should have never been there in the first place....


Are we talking about Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin, and William Singer or is this still an SFAS thread?
Or is it the same thing?
Or does it even matter anymore?

As usual Brother, your biting sarcasm speaks truth in volumes! Unfortunately it has become a distinction without a difference.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

^^^^^"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Alexander Tytler

I don't think this ship is turning around.

I would like to think that we as a nation have woken to the New World Order agenda....but.....they have our youth...and our future

[tom kelly]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

I would like to think that we as a nation have woken to the New World Order agenda....but.....they have our youth...and our future

They Don't have all of the youth, My grandchildren ages 18 to 33 and great-grandchildren 2 to 16 think like I do. I spend time with them QUALITY TIME. They see through the "Progressive Socialist" propaganda spewed by the Liars in Government, Schools from grades K to postgraduate, The mainstream media, their former associates who were once their friends but were seduced by the propaganda from the left. IT IS UP TO US the parents, grandparents and great grandparents is we live that long to STAY IN THE FIGHT.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by tom kelly

IT IS UP TO US the parents, grandparents and great grandparents is we live that long to STAY IN THE FIGHT.

Amen. They are the ones I am fighting for, the only ones that matter, not the whole school district.

[Combat Diver]

Seems he should have his Tab revoked for fair play.

CD

[Badger52]

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) told Breitbart News on Thursday that his office will investigate allegations that a two-star Army general has wrongly retaliated against Green Berets under his command at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare School and Center (SWCS).

Those allegations center on Army Maj. Gen. Kurt L. Sonntag, who unleashed a string of career-ending punishments last year, after one Green Beret instructor at SWCS wrote a 6,399-word anonymous email expressing concern over the alleged lowering of standards for candidates going through the Qualification course, where Green Berets are graduated.

“That is something when I get back to my office [in North Carolina] we’ll be looking into it,” said Tillis, who is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Personnel Subcommittee and represents North Carolina, where SWCS is located at Fort Bragg.

“There are some standards that I think are completely appropriate, but when we start lowering the standards to address anything other than capabilities and readiness, then I’m willing to take the politically unpopular position to make sure that our folks are, well, they’re safe and lethal. I’ll make sure that my staff follow up on it.”

He said he has not seen the specific allegations, so he cannot yet say if he agrees with them, but he said they are “certainly” worth looking into.

“Anytime you have somebody on the ground — we’re talking Green Berets — these are highly skilled, experienced people, and anytime, they have a vested interest in making sure that their peers are equally ready and capable, and so anytime those folks on the ground, their opinion is very important,” he said.

Full article w/recap of previously discussed HERE.

[Box]

There is an entire staff hard at work producing countless powerpoint slides that all show how no standards have changed. The Q' is harder now than ever before - hell - some of the finest SF Soldiers to ever wear a Green Beret never even attended the SFQC.

remain calm, all is well - nothing to see here - move along

[WarriorDiplomat]

The General, his staff and USASFC/USASOC/SOCOM with the stable of the brightest thinking sycophants' in the community will be there to spin and lie to cover this up.....orders through implication have been given to keep mouths shut or face the same treatment as the others...the General made it loud and clear from my foxhole and the silence from SWCS supports my opinion that he will retaliate with wrecking your career and say it was for whatever reason....the senator will be gaslighted...unless and I hope they do the NCO's etc...in question have irrefutable evidence and the General and his staff gets caught lying about it and even then heads will roll below him I am sure...much like the Democrats the GEN will throw everyone below him under the bus to cover his ass

[Uman]

So I hear Sonntag is Optimizing SFQC. When I asked what that was the reply I got was it will be shortened. Has anyone else heard about this?

[Box]

The sooner you get them out of the course - the sooner they can get the experience they need to be good Green Berets.

They aren't getting experience by wasting away in the school house getting hazed by a bunch of low grade unprofessional has been SF guys that couldnt make it in group and only came to SWC because their Company SGM wanted to get rid of them...

For shit sake - look at these rif-raf: writing night letters, discriminating against gay couples, building phone apps when they should be mentoring troops, threatening to fight the CG in a town hall meeting.
Good lord - the shorter the Q-Course the better - I say send them straight from SFAS to an ODA. An ODA will do a far better job of training them than these baseball hat wearing hoodlums in SWC.

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by Box

The sooner you get them out of the course - the sooner they can get the experience they need to be good Green Berets.

They aren't getting experience by wasting away in the school house getting hazed by a bunch of low grade unprofessional has been SF guys that couldnt make it in group and only came to SWC because their Company SGM wanted to get rid of them...

For shit sake - look at these rif-raf: writing night letters, discriminating against gay couples, building phone apps when they should be mentoring troops, threatening to fight the CG in a town hall meeting.
Good lord - the shorter the Q-Course the better - I say send them straight from SFAS to an ODA. An ODA will do a far better job of training them than these baseball hat wearing hoodlums in SWC.

Very "Swiftian" of you. I don't know whether to laugh at the satire or cringe at the truths. Sadly, a lot of good guys who are trying to do right by the Regiment will get splattered in the current shit storm.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

Very "Swiftian" of you. I don't know whether to laugh at the satire or cringe at the truths. Sadly, a lot of good guys who are trying to do right by the Regiment will get splattered in the current shit storm.

And they wonder why the recruiting is having a hard time and taking less than stellar candidates to fill the needs of the "customer"

This is what happens when academics influence policy, recruiting. selection and training philosophy even in the regiment academics seem to be preferred over common sense troops...they are trying to take a booksmart nerd who walks out of the library and miraculously immediately has the instincts to function in the real world...not likely....this is like the hunter vs the philosopher on the hunters turf

The powerpoints will be full of deceptive graphs, stats etc.....you know metrics....when we all know the devil is in the details and intangibles...they have practiced this sales pitch year after year over and over

I wonder though if the sycophant culture and overall dishonesty in the regiment is why the GEN believes he is producing competent GB's? I am curious what the Groups are saying to USASFC about the quality I wonder what the battalions are telling the Group I wonder what the companies are telling the Bn and so on...Commander like to pull the old reliable response to low quality complaints "The Team Sgts need to step up and train that soldier" I have already heard the CSM's gaslight responses

[Guy]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

This is what happens when academics influence policy, recruiting. selection and training philosophy even in the regiment academics seem to be preferred over common sense troops...they are trying to take a book-smart nerd who walks out of the library (higher education of learning) and miraculously immediately has the instincts to function in the real world...not likely....this is like the hunter vs the philosopher on the hunters turf.

Stay safe and AIO brothers...

Guy

[PRB]

Good comments...wrong forum.