08-23-2017, 13:24
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Originally Posted by Box
...just a thought
If you are going to carry concealed; carry concealed. A carry gun in your purse is just like having extra ammo in your ruck back at the patrol base.
It doesn't do you any good if it isn't on your person. If you fall victim to a purse snatcher, your have just armed your assailant with your only means of defense.
Men and women are built different AND they dress different. If you like to wear a skirt, you still can wear a holster that allows you to carry a small pistol on your inner thigh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNL5pqn3Eng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ja4mUIO4mw
You also have boobs... that means you can wear looser shirts that help conceal a gun on your belt. A man wearing the same
You can also wear a light jacket in the summer and it will just look like you are a sharp dressed lady in a business jacket.
If I wear a jacket in the summer, it makes me look like I am crazy, or to the more observant, it labels me as a guy that is probably carrying concealed.
You can wear a vest and it just looks like a fashion item
If I wear a vest, it ABSOLUTELY makes it look like I am hiding something. There are a few site (below) that cater to ladies that want to carry concealed.
...for what its worth, I'd have a lot of fun getting my wife to model some of these holsters wearing nothing more than a tiara and some high heels
https://www.cancanconcealment.com/
https://www.gungoddess.com/on-body-holsters/
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Box Sir,
Wow, thank you for the insight and great ideas.
For me no skirts, tiaras, or high heels, (not in public anyway,) but since I do carry a chest around with me daily, it is good to know there are extra advantages for concealed carry. Thanks for the info. Have a lot of research and analysis to do before making the correct purchase. Try before you buy...and I plan on shooting a lot next week at targets designed to aide in this process of deduction.
Am continuing to learn, and thanks to all the advice here, am headed in the correct direction.
Thank you for taking the time to share.
Holly
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08-23-2017, 14:03
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Box Sir,
Wow, thank you for the insight and great ideas.
For me no skirts, tiaras, or high heels, (not in public anyway,) but since I do carry a chest around with me daily, it is good to know there are extra advantages for concealed carry. Thanks for the info. Have a lot of research and analysis to do before making the correct purchase. Try before you buy...and I plan on shooting a lot next week at targets designed to aide in this process of deduction.
Am continuing to learn, and thanks to all the advice here, am headed in the correct direction.
Thank you for taking the time to share.
Holly
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When looking at CC alternatives (e.g. the "Flash Bang", etc.) please remember Safety First! As in - keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you're coming up on target. Save the tatas is more than just cancer; there have been injuries and fatalities as a result of "negligent discharges" (with firearms ).
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08-23-2017, 14:08
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Save the tatas is more than just cancer; there have been injuries and fatalities as a result of "negligent discharges" (with firearms ).
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OMFG... that is funny.
It has a bit of a "you'll shoot your eye out kid" ring to it
negligent discharges....
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08-23-2017, 14:23
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OMFG... that is funny.
It has a bit of a "you'll shoot your eye out kid" ring to it
negligent discharges....
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Sirrs,
No negligent discharges will be done, as I am confident in my shooting instructor to advise and prevent anything like that from happening.
We will be more focused on basics, beginning with proper grip of the firearm, and move up from there.
Am looking forward to the training so, god forbid, any accident results from of careless discharge of my firearm.
Thank you Sirrs for the updates on safety first!
Holly
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08-23-2017, 15:32
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Sirrs,
No negligent discharges will be done, as I am confident in my shooting instructor to advise and prevent anything like that from happening.
We will be more focused on basics, beginning with proper grip of the firearm, and move up from there.
Am looking forward to the training so, god forbid, any accident results from of careless discharge of my firearm.
Thank you Sirrs for the updates on safety first!
Holly
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LOL....And Holly, thinking about safety, don't go to the range wearing Daisy Duke shorts either....you could get a thigh burn from the spent cartridge....sort of like a "Cartridge Hicky"....
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08-23-2017, 16:03
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LOL....And Holly, thinking about safety, don't go to the range wearing Daisy Duke shorts either....you could get a thigh burn from the spent cartridge....sort of like a "Cartridge Hicky"....
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Thanks Rita,
No shorts of any kind will be a part of this shooting exercise. Since my "friend" is taking the time to do this, the least I can do is Be Prepared with proper outfitting.
All kidding aside, this is a very serious undertaking on my part, and am very grateful to have this opportunity to learn from someone who knows what to do with a firearm.
Hope your lessons continue to go well Rita! The more intelligent females that are armed, the better.
Holly
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08-23-2017, 16:26
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Make sure you have the following at the range:
Weapon
Magazines
Ammunition
Ear pro
Eye pro
Holster or carrying device
Stiff belt if using a holster
Weapons cleaning kit
Any tools required to disassemble the weapon for cleaning
Targets
Target backers
Stapler and/or tape
TR
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08-23-2017, 17:08
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Make sure you have the following at the range:
Weapon
Magazines
Ammunition
Ear pro
Eye pro
Holster or carrying device
Stiff belt if using a holster
Weapons cleaning kit
Any tools required to disassemble the weapon for cleaning
Targets
Target backers
Stapler and/or tape
TR
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TR Sir,
Thank you for providing a great list. Am confident that all of the items will be there at the outdoor targets to be used. But it never is to be taken lightly, and a double and tripple check is always a good idea.
Being Prepared is always my first priority.
Holly
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08-23-2017, 17:18
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Thanks Rita,
No shorts of any kind will be a part of this shooting exercise. Since my "friend" is taking the time to do this, the least I can do is Be Prepared with proper outfitting.
All kidding aside, this is a very serious undertaking on my part, and am very grateful to have this opportunity to learn from someone who knows what to do with a firearm.
Hope your lessons continue to go well Rita! The more intelligent females that are armed, the better.
Holly
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LOL, you know I was only joking Best of luck on your training, I am still set for September and I will keep you updated
Rita
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08-23-2017, 18:45
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Serendipitous that I should get my September American Rifleman today. Page 73 has an article, "The Ladies Pistol Project", detailing an experiment by women, for women to figure out what constitutes the ideal firearm for a woman. Bottom line - 35 women x 18 different handguns (all the women volunteered to shoot all the pistols! [free ammo and somebody else to clean up the aftermath - no surprises there!]) with a survey after each pistol and tallying of surveys to determine ranking. The results challenge some of the popular myths. IMNSHO - Worth the read.
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08-24-2017, 05:00
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Serendipitous that I should get my September American Rifleman today. Page 73 has an article, "The Ladies Pistol Project", IMNSHO - Worth the read.
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Found a link and brief intro video:
http://cdn.americanrifleman.org/arti...istol-project/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSGE...ature=youtu.be
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08-24-2017, 11:09
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Thanks both for the article and links. Very thoughtful read on the subject of handguns, etc. for women.
I do have a question, I am normally a very high stung person, which means I cannot sit still, and I always have to be moving around. My instructor kept telling me "relax, breath, take your time". But I have a very hard time "relaxing", does anyone have some good suggestions before I go back on the range next time? I always feel like I want to run around the block several times just to relax.
Thanks for any advice, now I have to go run around the building because I am way too hyper right now.....
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08-24-2017, 11:50
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I'll let the 18D's give you a professional remote diagnostic answer,,
But Whisky helps me
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08-24-2017, 12:40
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I'll let the 18D's give you a professional remote diagnostic answer,,
But Whisky helps me
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Hummm...Whisky...Na, then I would just be drunk and giddy I don't take hard liquor well, even if it is a swig...
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08-29-2017, 13:23
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This is from a retired OSI Agent that worked world wide in civvies...thought the ladies here might appreciate her comments.
Jen's response to a carry question
My experience is that unless you are very slim or built like a 10 year old boy, there's always going to be some fit issues. The waist/hip curve is going to potentially make your gun stick out. Belt loops can be damn near impossible to find (except on jeans or utility pants) and concealing with a jacket ... just makes a big lump. Another issue can be boobs (yes, really); when you draw, your gun side breast can get in the way. Is it a showstopper? Not necessarily, but something to practice and contend with. The good, old-fashioned hip holster seemed to do the job best for me. I wouldn't dream of keeping a weapon anywhere but ON my body. Can't use it if you can't get to it. You may have to opt for higher pants (no low-rise) to make sure the belt stays securely on your waist, too. And on the note of belts, unless someone has come up with a retention gadget, when it's time to visit the bathroom, loop the flat end of your belt back around the first belt loop to keep it from slipping out. I've seen lots of guns hit the floor in the ladies' room, and that's a big no-go. My two cents'.
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