Old 06-23-2006, 19:07   #1
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Didn't they used to call the 5th...The Legion.........?
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Old 06-23-2006, 20:19   #2
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Just my memory

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Didn't they used to call the 5th...The Legion.........?
I was in 5th Group from 74 to 87. All of that was in 3rd Battalion. In all that time I don't remember "The Professionals" or "The Legion" in general use.

When I came back to 5th Group in 93 I began hearing "The Legion". I think I first recall it said by the Group Commander and then by a few others here and there. Again, it was not in general use but everybody at that time knew that it refered to 5th Group as a whole.

Knowing a word is related to a Group and then using it everyday are two different things.

Anyway, that's how I remember it.

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Old 06-23-2006, 20:34   #3
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Didn't they used to call the 5th...The Legion.........?

They still do. It's internal to the Group/community, I wouldn't recommend throwing it around like one of the cogniscenti. FWIW - Peregrino
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:56   #4
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In '68 the CO of C-3 or A Company 5th Grp began referring to said C Team as "The Professionals" both in word and in print.

I have always had a personal fascination with "The Legion" and don't think of it being a good comparison or point of reference to any SF.

They would compare well with rangers as a unit.
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Old 07-09-2006, 21:02   #5
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Gentlemen,

I believe the “legion” reference began shortly after Desert Storm. Most guys on the Teams never really used the term, it seemed to be mostly used by BN and Grp types, especially the various Group CDR’s.

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Old 07-09-2006, 21:38   #6
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Yes, they call it that most of the FOGs say it, matter afact i heard it just the other day.
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:26   #7
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Yes, they call it that most of the FOGs say it, matter afact i heard it just the other day.
GEE, SEPENT5XX, I guess that last post sure put us in our place in life's line.

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Old 07-10-2006, 12:40   #8
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“The legion”

Guys,

From what I understand, the term “The Legion” was started with the 5th and 77th, and then rarely used, I agree that the use was mostly at the BN and Group levels, but not as a normal reference and never outside SF. Here is my recollection which is dated.

The first, I heard the reference was at a SFA while talking to Pete Petersen (77th SFG) now this was a long time, and having consumed the normal amount of libations, anyway Pete told me this long sorted story, so here is the quick and dirty: The reference to SF and the 5th specifically as “The Legion” came from the results of a tough mission, that was executed using the primary plan (this would have been a first) by a short handed ODA, very efficiently and this mission was taken because the Regular Army guys could not step up. The regular Army Brass said that it would take a “Legion” to complete the mission, months to plan, and then the threat would be gone, so the 5th Group Commander stepped forward, saying Bull Shit, my guys can do it, in three weeks and that only one ODA was needed, so they planned, executed, and completed the mission in two weeks and five days, so the reference “The Legion” was born this was in 62 or 63. Pete thought using “the Legion” was over the top, but he was from the 77th and they were never over the top, were they? So to close this commentary, the Group and BN Commanders loved using the term “The Legion” as SF Teams always are doing what others consider are impossible missions. So, that’s the story and I’m sticking to it!
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Old 07-10-2006, 15:41   #9
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Zinger531,

Sounds like a good story to me! I'll buy that!

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Old 07-10-2006, 16:47   #10
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don't get me wrong Pete I'd follow an FOG into a hot LZ any day and be honored. Nothing but respect for you gents.
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Old 07-27-2006, 17:27   #11
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Sounds like a credible explanation but then who cares what you call them. You are going to get your butt kicked no matter what you call them.
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Old 07-27-2006, 17:53   #12
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don't get me wrong Pete I'd follow an FOG into a hot LZ any day and be honored. Nothing but respect for you gents.
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Sounds like a credible explanation but then who cares what you call them. You are going to get your butt kicked no matter what you call them.
Then why did you ask the question in the first place? You hush too.
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Old 07-27-2006, 21:07   #14
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SORRY NDD Ill hush now
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Old 09-18-2006, 23:03   #15
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Hmmm......I thought it all stemmed out of the Movie Gladiator!!!!!!!!

Seems like right after that movie came out, all the Commanders and staff started to bandy "The Legion" around, along with "Strength and Honor!!!!!!!!"

I guess it was just a reincarnation!!!!!!!
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