12-17-2020, 16:52
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Originally Posted by Paslode
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The out of control ATF is going to be a lasting legacy of the Trump administration. Another swamp not only failed to drain but allowed to grow wider and deeper.
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12-17-2020, 18:44
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Originally Posted by bblhead672
The out of control ATF is going to be a lasting legacy of the Trump administration. Another swamp not only failed to drain but allowed to grow wider and deeper.
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Yeah, Trump should have cleaned house at the BATFE and made it more friendly to the folks that pay their salaries and benefits. ATF has definitely put the carrot out there and pulled a bait and switch on braces. If a private entity conducted business as the ATF does they would be sued into oblivion.
It's going to be interesting. I read people hooting and hollering they won't comply, but if your choice is a possible felony versus an SBR or new class firearm with no $200 fee what are you going to do. If you already have NFA items your in the data base, if you filled out a 4473 you can be found and if you purchased pistol upper from a dealer there is a transaction record.
I think it is fair to say that if the ATF processed NFA items in 1-2 months instead of a snails pace far more folks would have opted for a SBR instead of a flimsy brace.
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12-17-2020, 18:56
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Speed Limit
The time is coming that the ATF will be relegated to the same place the HWY patrol was in the 80’s when the interstate speed limit was 55mph. If they make “assault weapons” “taxable”, people will not comply, and will likely punch the 3rd hole in their now illegal receivers and let the chips fall where they may.
If the Chinese sock-puppet succeeds in his plan to “get rid of assault weapons”, there will be a bridge that they will try to cross...... same as it ever was. People who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it.
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12-17-2020, 19:03
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Originally Posted by Paslode
Yeah, Trump should have cleaned house at the BATFE and made it more friendly to the folks that pay their salaries and benefits. ATF has definitely put the carrot out there and pulled a bait and switch on braces. If a private entity conducted business as the ATF does they would be sued into oblivion.
It's going to be interesting. I read people hooting and hollering they won't comply, but if your choice is a possible felony versus an SBR or new class firearm with no $200 fee what are you going to do. If you already have NFA items your in the data base, if you filled out a 4473 you can be found and if you purchased pistol upper from a dealer there is a transaction record.
I think it is fair to say that if the ATF processed NFA items in 1-2 months instead of a snails pace far more folks would have opted for a SBR instead of a flimsy brace.
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Where I have a real problem is the proposed $200 for the pistol plus $200 for each magazine over 10 rounds. I know people that make a great living that would be bankrupt if that went through. One friend of mine bought a pallet of 1000 military surplus magazines. He'd have to mortgage his house to pay the fees on them.
I really think it won't matter though. The people that are surrendering P80's are going to sue and it will go to the Supreme Court. I'll hold out for that decision. I'm pretty sure an injunction prohibiting confiscation until the matter is settled will come out quick.
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01-02-2021, 10:28
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ATF Withdraws Notice & Request For Comment On Pistol Braces
BREAKING: ATF Withdraws Notice & Request For Comment On Pistol Braces
https://mailchi.mp/americansuppresso...2?e=8a5cd22368
We are not felons for the now.
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01-04-2021, 17:56
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December 2020 numbers are in and the trend continues.
The people are speaking...3,937,066 background checks for December.
Look at the overall number for 2020...39,695,315...yes, 39 million and change.
NICS Firearm Background Checks:
Month/Year
November 30, 1998 - December 31, 2020
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...month_year.pdf
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01-04-2021, 20:00
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December 2020 numbers are in and the trend continues.
The people are speaking...3,937,066 background checks for December.
Look at the overall number for 2020...39,695,315...yes, 39 million and change.
NICS Firearm Background Checks:
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November 30, 1998 - December 31, 2020
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...month_year.pdf |
That's a huge number!
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01-04-2021, 20:40
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Originally Posted by Paslode
That's a huge number!
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And those things have ammo, if the dearth when shopping is to be believed, and the cost as well.
FWIW, I've seen unsolicited comments from ammo makers, including Win now running Lake City, that they're going as hard as they can, and that they haven't raised their price to the wholesalers or other suppliers. Demand is driving that and the retailers are the ones making those increases. Result is that $0.28/round 5.56 you stacked up awhile back appears to be the genius move of the year. "Look Honey!!! An investment that actually appreciated!"
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01-08-2021, 19:09
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The Dems are primed to hit the road running...
I did not find any description other than the following:
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As of 01/08/2021 text has not been received for H.R.127 - To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...-bill/127/text
Sponser: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]
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01-14-2021, 13:55
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For all of you guys in the MacDill area or other sunny locations...
https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/...text/filed/pdf
I'm fairly certain that it never makes it through the FL Senate, but you should be aware of the attempt.
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01-14-2021, 14:20
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Thank you (1VB)compforce.
It’s time that Constitutional Carry bills be considered in all free states that don’t already have them.
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01-14-2021, 15:18
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Thanks. I have engaged my state congressional members.
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01-14-2021, 16:36
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Just re-read the letter that started this thread. As pertinent and important as when it was first publsihed.
Seeing the letter elsewhere brought me to the site in July 2016, and I cannot express my gratitude enough to the QP's who authored and signed it.
Also thanks to all the QP's who graciously allow this old sailor to hang around these parts.
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01-28-2021, 20:36
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Here’s the text of the proposed bill:
A BILL
To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-.../text?r=17&s=1
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01-28-2021, 20:53
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Here’s the text of the proposed bill:
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Just comin' here to post & link that exact thing, thanks. I'm gettin' slow.
(and we've seen this bill before.)
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