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Old 08-19-2010, 14:07   #1
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A round of FN SCAR's for all...

Looks like someone better learn to love the FN SCAR FAMILY...

Splain sumt'n to me Lucy...

Why full production when the MK 16 was dumped??

Or is our buddy Crane out in left field,, as is his ilk??




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FN SCAR (Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle) Weapons System Approved for Full-Rate Production (FRP)

On August 16, 2010, in Featured, In The News, Rifles And Carbines, Special Operations, by David Crane

The following is a FN Herstal USA (FNH USA) press release:

McLean, VA (August 16, 2010). The U.S. Special Operations Command notified FN that the Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle (SCAR) family of weapons—the MK 16 (5.56mm) and MK 17 (7.62mm) combat assault rifles and MK 13 grenade launcher—was approved for full-rate production. The Full-Rate Production Decision Review by the Milestone Decision Authority occurred on July 30, 2010.

FN Herstal, a worldwide recognized firearms supplier to generations of soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines since 1897, has ramped up production and assembly at its manufacturing facilities to meet the delivery orders placed by USSOCOM.

Following a worldwide solicitation to the firearms industry in 2004, nine vendors submitted a dozen designs for a new modular, multi-caliber weapons system. In November 2004, FNH was awarded the contract by USSOCOM for its SCAR submission after passing the Go/No-Go criteria required by the solicitation and being selected by a source selection board composed of senior operators from every SOF component.

The SCAR weapons system is modular and easily adaptable to future enhancements and calibers. It is built with an eye to careful economic stewardship and the small logistical footprint required of today’s highly mobile military. Overall life cycle costs are reduced by features such as a chrome-lined, hammer forged steel barrel with a service life of far more than 15,000+ rounds. Each component of the SCAR weapons system is built for years of dependable service while minimizing maintenance downtime.

The heart of the FN SCAR system consists of two highly adaptable modular rifle platforms and a grenade launcher. Type-designated as the MK 16 and the MK 17, both rifles are available with three different barrel lengths optimized for conducting operations in close-quarters combat, standard infantry and longer-range precision fire roles. All SCAR barrels are tightly attached to a monolithic receiver and can be easily interchanged by the operator in minutes to instantly meet virtually any mission requirement. The MK 13 40mm Enhanced Grenade Launcher Module (EGLM) easily mounts under the barrel of either SCAR platform, providing another useful tool for the warfighter and is easily configured for use as a stand-alone weapon as well. Because of the SCAR system’s modular design, ergonomic (100%) and parts commonality (greater than 80%), it represents a significant reduction in training costs and life-cycle support. The weapon system’s open architecture supports future enhancements and modifications in operational requirements including ammunition, aiming devices, sighting systems and other mission critical equipment.

The MK 17 (7.62mm) is also the base of the SCAR common receiver currently under final test and evaluation by USSOCOM. The SCAR common receiver can accommodate multi-caliber conversion kits.

The SCAR weapons system is the first new assault rifle procured by the U.S. Military through a full and open competition since the M16 trials held in the mid-1960s. It was tested for reliability, accuracy, safety and ergonomics from August 2005 to September 2008 in a variety of environments including urban, maritime, jungle and winter/mountain operational test scenarios. The SCAR weapons system successfully endured more than two million rounds of ammunition during these trials thereby making it the most heavily tested weapons system in the history of small arms. No other current so-called modular weapons system has endured even a fraction of this degree of strenuous testing, and none are in use by U.S. forces.

FN firearms manufactured in the United States are produced by FN Manufacturing in Columbia, SC. The Herstal Group is represented by FNH USA, FN Manufacturing and Browning within the United States and directly employs more than 1,000 individuals. U.S. operations are located in Virginia, South Carolina, Utah and Missouri. FNH USA is the sales and marketing arm of FN. Its corporate mission is to expand the company’s global leadership position in defense, law enforcement and commercial markets by delivering superior products and the finest in training and logistical support. For more information, or to view the entire line of FN products, visit www.fnhusa.com. FNH USA, LLC, P.O. Box 697, McLean, VA 22101 USA.
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Old 08-31-2010, 18:59   #2
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FN Propaganda, and it has some folks really upset.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:00   #3
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I wonder if that's why FN is having a Congressional Staff Shooting Event next week. Maybe trying to mend some fences...

This was in an email sent to one of our State Reps here in TX recently.

"Subject: Reminder: FNH USA Congressional Shooting Event

Good afternoon,

I just wanted to send a quick reminder to RSVP yes or no for the Congressional Staff Shooting Event hosted by FNH USA on Wednesday, September 8, 2010, in Fredericksburg, Virginia. If you need more information please don’t hesitate to contact me. We hope you are able to join us for this fun and exciting experience and test some of the military’s finest weapons. Please RSVP at your earliest convenience to ensure we save you a place on the firing line!

Thank you,

XXXXX
Marketing & Communications Manager

FNH USA
1420 Beverly Road, Ste. 330
McLean, VA 22101"
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Old 09-02-2010, 13:29   #4
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I wonder if that's why FN is having a Congressional Staff Shooting Event next week. Maybe trying to mend some fences...

This was in an email sent to one of our State Reps here in TX recently.

"Subject: Reminder: FNH USA Congressional Shooting Event

Good afternoon,

I just wanted to send a quick reminder to RSVP yes or no for the Congressional Staff Shooting Event hosted by FNH USA on Wednesday, September 8, 2010, in Fredericksburg, Virginia. If you need more information please don’t hesitate to contact me. We hope you are able to join us for this fun and exciting experience and test some of the military’s finest weapons. Please RSVP at your earliest convenience to ensure we save you a place on the firing line!

Thank you,

XXXXX
Marketing & Communications Manager

FNH USA
1420 Beverly Road, Ste. 330
McLean, VA 22101"
Sounds like a GREAT IDEA, who they going to shoot?
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Old 09-02-2010, 13:31   #5
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Sounds like a GREAT IDEA, who they going to shoot?
Nice, TS - Now I have to clean the coffee off my screen!
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Old 09-02-2010, 13:35   #6
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Looks like someone better learn to love the FN SCAR FAMILY...

Splain sumt'n to me Lucy...

Why full production when the MK 16 was dumped??

Or is our buddy Crane out in left field,, as is his ilk??

David Crane is out in left field, I think he likes it there.

The "story" he wrote about is posted on FNUSA website.

http://www.fnhusa.com/le/press/detail.asp?id=92

I guess we should contact USSOCOM and find out if it's "true"? Someone find the USSOCOM PAO's email addy, we need to have a chat....
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Old 09-02-2010, 13:44   #7
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I wonder if that's why FN is having a Congressional Staff Shooting Event next week. Maybe trying to mend some fences...

This was in an email sent to one of our State Reps here in TX recently.

"Subject: Reminder: FNH USA Congressional Shooting Event

Good afternoon,

I just wanted to send a quick reminder to RSVP yes or no for the Congressional Staff Shooting Event hosted by FNH USA on Wednesday, September 8, 2010, in Fredericksburg, Virginia. If you need more information please don’t hesitate to contact me. We hope you are able to join us for this fun and exciting experience and test some of the military’s finest weapons. Please RSVP at your earliest convenience to ensure we save you a place on the firing line!

Thank you,

XXXXX
Marketing & Communications Manager

FNH USA
1420 Beverly Road, Ste. 330
McLean, VA 22101"
P.S. Dick Cheney will be attending.
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Old 09-02-2010, 20:11   #8
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2 MK-17's on each team and be done with it.
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Old 09-02-2010, 20:45   #9
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That's about what you are going to get.
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Old 09-03-2010, 15:37   #10
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That's about what you are going to get.
Not much room for anything else in the Armsroom.
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Old 09-03-2010, 16:27   #11
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Spec Ops Command Cancels New Rifle

Edited.. Already posted as a thread.

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Old 09-07-2010, 10:40   #12
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2 MK-17's on each team and be done with it.
Throw a match grade trigger group in and a Leupold scope and you pretty much have 2 more M110s.
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:11   #13
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At the end of the day it doesnt matter if we have laser guns that can shoot around corners or ironsites, GB's will get the job done.
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SCAR

I am late on this post for sure however what was written in 2010 was almost spot on i.e. "2 for each team".

We were given 2 of them in the 17 but because I am an M4 lover, I pushed them aside. But as time went on I got bored and gave them a try. I took one to our range in daylight and zeroed it shot well with or without the suppressor however that "ring" it gives off is like a harmonic tone and from what I was told maybe what is causing the damage to any optics and/ or LA-5 that you might attach.

That being said for night ops with what we had available in optics and lasers they were useless so we carried the trusty M4 at night. Our location changed and we found that with the stock folded they became more useful to us at a later time.

Both came with a long and short barrel and were easy to swap out in a controlled environment with the tool kit however it required you to swap out your mag pouches of course and limited you on amount carried.

Overall not a bad concept and seems a solid platform but still its just to soon to tell, for me anyway.
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