01-02-2019, 15:39
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
An entrepreneurial person could start a GFM to support American tax payers to support welfare, EBT (Food Stamps), and the free lunch program at public schools...
Target $100 Billion/Annually
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OK, I'm in to slap some stickers up (you should have Sabo do this) but gotta tell ya Boss I'm NOT doing the environmental recon to find the poster-girl "face" of this campaign. Unh-uh - nope.
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01-03-2019, 10:55
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Originally Posted by plato
The chart/study is slightly flawed. Checking analyses done for the Govt. was my "bread and butter" before 9/11 when regional EOC's were dumped in my lap.
I'll offer the analysis I did for my nephew (typical Kalifornian).
5 basketball players, earning $1,000,000 each are paying taxes on 5 Mil.
Along comes Pedro, displacing one. (as long as there are those seeking jobs, an American is displaced by each illegal).
We now have 5 players paying taxes on $5 Mil, just like before. There is no contribution on the plus side.
However, 4 of the 5 original players now have the burden of paying into social programs to support the displaced American. That displaced American has certainly not profited from the fact that Pedro is paying taxes. The results also go into the negative column.
When my division was in the business of analyzing studies going forward to D.C., we found 80% or more were flawed. (Folks at Rand still grit their teeth when they hear my name. )
When it comes to studies such as the above, I imagine the flaw rate is even higher
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Not my numbers, I can accept that the study has flaws.
Whatever the actual dollar number is not the point. It is that US citizens' tax dollars are being spent on providing freebies to citizens of other countries who are breaking our laws.
I wouldn't agree with it if the total was $1,000 per year instead of billions.
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01-07-2019, 12:52
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Originally Posted by bblhead672
Not my numbers, I can accept that the study has flaws.
Whatever the actual dollar number is not the point. It is that US citizens' tax dollars are being spent on providing freebies to citizens of other countries who are breaking our laws.
I wouldn't agree with it if the total was $1,000 per year instead of billions.
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No intention to poke at you or your chart. Sorry if it came across that way. My comment was more for anyone reading who hadn't heard "opposing numbers". I'm inclined to do that. I also infuriate said liberal nephew with the Global Cooling cycles that have been taking place on this planet for the last 800K years.
Looking at the relatively short term trend, climate wise, alarms folks (and is apparently designed to do so), sorta like looking outside at noon and midnight, and deciding the sun died that day.
Just for S&G look at that long-term (800K years) trend below.
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01-07-2019, 16:35
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Originally Posted by plato
Just for S&G look at that long-term (800K years) trend below.
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Ahem, looks like normal sinus rhythm - you can discharge the patient to continue their recovery at home. Besides, none of this will matter if Darth Bader continues to miss SCOTUS orals.
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01-08-2019, 18:30
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Okay, just searched for “What time is the Presidents address” the first line gives the time...
Then the DNN links start, no need to describe. We don’t need investigations to know where the real collusion is... gonzo propagandist. How could I ever make up my own mind about anything without their guidance?
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01-12-2019, 10:51
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From ABC news :
“The campaign, titled "We The People Will Build the Wall," had raised $20,240,198 as of early Saturday. Over 330,000 people had donated to the cause, with nine people giving over $10,000 and one person giving $50,000.
But Kolfage also announced on Friday he was suddenly stepping back from donating the money straight to the U.S. government -- a promise it wasn't exactly clear he could complete -- and instead funneling the money to a new nonprofit he started called "We Build the Wall, Inc."
The switch broke GoFundMe's donation rules and prompted the refund offer.”
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01-12-2019, 11:03
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The progressives at GFM want to shut down the effort and put the squeeze on Brian for technical wordsmithing.
Now CNN & other 5th column news org are trying to make it look like the effort has collapsed and there are shenanigans afoot.
It's still GTG.
caveat: If you have contributed, you need to go to the site and re-affirm your commitment or GFM will force Brian to refund your money.
Build the Wall
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01-12-2019, 11:46
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
The progressives at GFM want to shut down the effort and put the squeeze on Brian for technical wordsmithing.
Now CNN & other 5th column news org are trying to make it look like the effort has collapsed and there are shenanigans afoot.
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I think everyone saw that coming from day 1. Surprised GFM allowed it to continue this far.
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08-20-2020, 08:21
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And they all get charged...
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Audrey Strauss, the Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and Philip R. Bartlett, Inspector-in-Charge of the New York Field Office of the United States Postal Inspection Service (“USPIS”), announced the unsealing of an indictment charging BRIAN KOLFAGE, STEPHEN BANNON, ANDREW BADOLATO, and TIMOTHY SHEA for their roles in defrauding hundreds of thousands of donors in connection with an online crowdfunding campaign known as “We Build the Wall” that raised more than $25 million.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/20/form...ng-scheme.html
The question is, is this election year shenanigans or is there something there. I observe that this is another NY DA going after the leadership of an organization that would be popular with supporters of President Trump. I'm 50/50 on whether there's fire under this smoke.
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08-20-2020, 09:10
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Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce
And they all get charged...
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/20/form...ng-scheme.html
The question is, is this election year shenanigans or is there something there. I observe that this is another NY DA going after the leadership of an organization that would be popular with supporters of President Trump. I'm 50/50 on whether there's fire under this smoke.
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DA for SDNY goes after Trump supporters 75 days before the election? No shenanigans going on there. Isn’t the same office suing the NRA?
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