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Old 11-04-2018, 21:13   #31
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...unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Government Guarantee of Happiness and Everything You Ever Wanted, Ever.
Al Sharpton phoned in his correction...
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:28   #32
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Al Sharpton phoned in his correction...
Lol, and Elizabeth Warren translated that into smoke signals.
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Old 11-06-2018, 15:41   #33
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These articles might help (re: "anchor babies") these articles might help clarify matters:


<b>"Justice Brennan's Footnote Gave Us Anchor-Babies"</b>
by Ann Coulter Aug.4, 2010
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2010-08-04.html

<b>"From Feudalism to Consent : Rethinking Birthright Citizenship"</b>
March 30, 2006 The Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org/the-constit...ht-citizenship

<b>"Alien Birthright Citizenship: A Fable That Lives Through Ignorance"</b>
by P.A. Madison, The Federalist Blog, December 17, 2005
http://federalistblog.us/2005/12/bir...hip_fable.html

<b>"What ‘Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof’ Really Means"</b>
by P.A. Madison The Federalist Blog, September 22nd, 2007
http://www.federalistblog.us/2007/09..._jurisdiction/

<b>"Babies Don’t Provide Anchors!"</b>
by Publius Huldah
https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/...anchor-babies/
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:39   #34
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Thanks for compiling that. Of course with Paul Ryan on his way out of the House and the loss of the House this is an even further up hill battle.

Trump will have to initiate the fuse with an EO or wait until 2020.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:19   #35
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These articles might help (re: "anchor babies") these articles might help clarify matters:
Those did help, thank you. It seems that the crux of the matter is still whether
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"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
refers to one class of person or three.

To me, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is there to further clarify the first part of the sentence. On the other hand, it seems that language is as subject to personal interpretation as statistics are.
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