10-03-2006, 09:01
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Most useful. SOTIC. Already attended a few Sniper Schools before this so I was able to relax and build on my skills.
Hardest. SOT. Pistol was one of my weak points so I struggled thru this one.
Most Fun. All of them pretty much. Can’t beat the antics of twenty or more SF Guys together in the same school.
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10-03-2006, 09:16
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Hardest and most useful - SF Medical Sergeant's Reclassification Course.
Most fun - SF Light Weapons PHII (lots of rounds downrange back then)
The two that put the fear of God into me - SADM and NBC
The one that 'hurt' the most - Pre Scuba - when one of my sinuses was barometrically evacuated, and I was DQd from attempting SCUBA for 2 years.
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10-03-2006, 10:10
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"SF Loggie"
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So Demanding I Failed It
I failed MAPTOE (Management Practices in TOE Units) in early 1972 because I couldn't place the trash cans and telephones properly; or was it because I had two wisdom teeth pulled on the last day of class and started the Basic Airborne Course the next day? OK, just kidding, Colonel (about the first part, not about the teeth and jump school, that was true and I did fail it for not turning in my workplace diagram, it was almost Happy Hour at Willie's).
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10-03-2006, 14:09
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[QUOTE=Soft Target]MAPTOE QUOTE]
Some GS18 probably made SES rank after developing this rediculous attempt to turn the military into a corporate headquarters. As I recall this had more to do with eyewash and process than performance and results and had about as much application and value in the field as a pair of spit-shinned boots.
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10-04-2006, 05:18
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Best Course You Have Attended?
Can’t beat the antics of twenty or more SF Guys together in the same school.
Sound's like my class at the 'Bird during intel school. We ask a Marine O-4 what class he liked to work with best. Naturally we came out on top. He resaon was " you better know you subject or be prepared toget shot off the platform.".
BMT
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10-04-2006, 07:03
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Let's categorize 'em
Hardest most demanding course ever: 25th ID RIP 1997 (now shut down)
Longest, worst, gut check: Ranger (5-97)
Shortest, worst , gut check: June SFAS 1998 (black flag every day)
Easiest: Sadly it was Airborne
Worst bending of standards: IMLC
Biggest waste of time: ANCOC
Most fun, and best course: SFARTAETC
Most relaxed: SOTIC
Most professional cadre (hard choice): SERE
Most arduous: DLI
Coolest shit I've done in a mil school: Door checks over Thailand, JM
and of course, let's not forget the hardest 10 days in the Army: Air Assault (NOT!!!)
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10-04-2006, 08:57
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Most entertaining class/course- Sergeants Major Academy....I still miss the Coyote Lounge.
Jim
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10-04-2006, 10:38
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Ditto
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Originally Posted by Matta mile
Fun wise without a doubt was the coveted "Inland Waterways" training in Alaska. Went there with the team during Alaskan summer. Lots of time in a motor boat on beautiful rivers. Camping and fishing in some of the most georgeous wilderness I have ever seen. Not your typical SF training.
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Ditto - Summer of 1982. Things to remember - stuck my head out of the tent around 0300 (daylight) and a moose was chomping away in the creek about 30 feet from me - came out of a bar at midnight and darn near had a heart attack, the sun should not be up when you come out - and last the TMP bus got a flat and the driver didn't have the key to the lock holding the spare. I showed him how fast a Swiss Army knife saw goes through a brass lock.
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Can jump a boat over trees with the best of them.
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10-05-2006, 18:11
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Can I have a hug, please?
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For those of us who have not had the opportunity to attend nearly as many schools as SOF, can we post our favorite training mission?
Travis
P.S. It was even SOF lead!!! I swear!
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10-05-2006, 18:34
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It seems to me that since this is the SF Forum and the question was about schools, it would be best if QPs responded and we discuss schools.
Feel free to start a separate thread in another forum to discuss your "favorite training mission".
TR
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10-05-2006, 18:39
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Favorite school (tie)- SFARTAETC/USASOC mountaineering course.
Least favorite- Jumpmaster
School where I most wanted to put a bullet in my head-AIMC
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10-08-2006, 14:23
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Gentlemen:
I appreciate all your answers but this thread seems to have morphed in to something other than my intention. I initialled posted this question in the 18C section because I was looking for courses specifically geared toward SF Engineering. Perhaps I should have said, "other than the MOS portion of SFQC, what course have you taken that most benefitted you as an 18C?"
x/S
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10-08-2006, 15:36
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Originally Posted by exsquid
Gentlemen:
I appreciate all your answers but this thread seems to have morphed in to something other than my intention. I initialled posted this question in the 18C section because I was looking for courses specifically geared toward SF Engineering. Perhaps I should have said, "other than the MOS portion of SFQC, what course have you taken that most benefitted you as an 18C?"
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LOL - non-specific instructions draw non-specific results. Some FOG SF guys taught me that several times....
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10-10-2006, 13:14
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There aren't that many schools geared towards 18Cs in particular, I can only think of two offhand that only Cs attend, and one you need three years of team time for.
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10-10-2006, 18:53
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18C schools? HAZMAT and Air Load Planner. 
SFC W
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