07-11-2020, 07:21
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I echo EricV's advice: be careful out there. Don't seek confrontation - too many SJW's out there looking to become world star or u-tube famous. I've told friends, family, etc to be VERY careful these days as the new norm is for some goblin with a chip on his shoulder to create/engineer a confrontation while his buddy films it. The police won't help. You are on your own. Just walk away.
I carry at all times except when at work (Army base). I'll save that rant for another day....; but suffice to say that I am very careful and non-threatening due to that fact. I'm not "fearful," I am just ready to rapidly escalate that encounter into a situation wherein some people are going to be very unhappy with the outcome. Therefor, I mind my damned business, walk away, and stay in the "gray."
I don't do social media (except this site here); don't rant and rave in public; always watch my six. If the place looks sketchy, don't go there...period. Don't forget your training now that you are in CONUS, or a civilian....there are environments in some of our inner-cities that are as bad for a white boy as Fallujah was in '04.
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Solid advice, thank you for posting it.
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07-11-2020, 09:00
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CA has such a thing in statute? Pray tell, what might these tools be. Armor-piercing Krylon? Assault Pressure Washer?
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High capacity paint roller. Everyone knows this.
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07-11-2020, 09:13
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Testing The Water !
Neighborhood in my AO has changed over the past 5 years. A few liberal progressive democrats, a few gay couples, some ethnic people, mixture not enough to embolden them to a position of leadership in the community. The problem is the overbuilding and the relaxed building codes and influx of refugees from NYC seeking tax relief, but they bring their liberal progressive baggage that caused the NYC problem. The new libs are ignoramus's and post signs of their political non-theist religious beliefs and parade around as they are accepted citizen leaders of their community. They display the gay pride flag or blm signs but have NO COURAGE when confronted by long time residents who "put them in their place" Their reaction is to first apologize & offer to agree. ME I am just watching as the world changes...BUT, I AM READY.
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07-11-2020, 09:32
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Sometimes they find you anyway...
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I've told friends, family, etc to be VERY careful these days as the new norm is for some goblin with a chip on his shoulder to create/engineer a confrontation while his buddy films it.
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Supporting link is here.
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Published: Jul. 8, 2020 at 7:51 PM CDT|Updated: Jul. 9, 2020 at 5:32 PM CDT
FOND DU LAC COUNTY, Wis. (WBAY) - A Fond du Lac man charged in a homicide hate crime says he intentionally swerved his truck into a motorcyclist because he believed Harley riders to be “white racists,” according to information released by the county sheriff Thursday.
Daniel Navarro, 27, is being held on a $1 million bond on charges of 1st Degree Intentional Homicide - Hate Crime - Use of a Dangerous Weapon and 1st Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety - Hate Crime. He made his initial court appearance in Fond du Lac County Thursday.
The victim was identified as Phillip A. Thiessen, 55. Thiessen, a 1983 graduate of L.P. Goodrich High School, was a Marine and later a police officer in Fairfax, Va. Later, Thiessen worked for the Wisconsin Department of Justice Internet Crimes Against Children unit. He had retired and was living in Fond du Lac. CLICK HERE to read Thiessen’s obituary.
“Phillip was a generous, caring, loyal man that made friends easily anywhere he went, and maintained long distance friendships for many years. He believed in giving back to his community and was a volunteer at the Fondy Food Pantry,” reads the obituary.
The crash happened July 3, at about 6:47 p.m. Sheriff Ryan Waldschmidt says Navarro was driving a pickup truck east on Winnebago Dr when he swerved into the path of an oncoming motorcycle.
Navarro’s truck hit Thiessen’s motorcycle head on.
Thiessen was found dead in the road. Navarro’s truck went off the road and hit a pole. He was not hurt.
Sheriff Waldschmidt says Navarro spoke to a sergeant who responded to the scene. Navarro told the sergeant that he intentionally crashed into the motorcycle.
Navarro passed field sobriety tests and had no signs of impairment, according to the sheriff.
Detectives interviewed Navarro for several hours. They say Navarro claimed he was being poisoned by co-workers and neighbors. He claimed white people make racist comments to him because he’s Hispanic.
“He [Navarro] said that all of the people who cause him these problems in his life are Caucasian or white,” said Waldschmidt.
Navarro discussed recent events and the racial climate in the country.
“Navarro said if President Donald Trump and white people are going to create the world we are living in, he has no choice and people are going to have to die,” Waldschmidt recalled.
On the day of the crash, Navarro took his father’s pickup truck for a ride in the country. As he headed back into Fond du Lac, he noticed a person on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
The sheriff said, “Navarro told detectives that he believed the person driving the motorcycle was white because in Wisconsin, white people drive Harley-Davidson motorcycles, and the Harley culture was made up of white racists. He admitted he could not specifically see who was driving this motorcycle.”
“Navarro said he intentionally swerved into the path of the oncoming motorcycle with the intent to kill that operator, and that he chose a motorcycle instead of a car because he wanted the driver to die and not just be injured or paralyzed,” said Waldschmidt.
Navarro told them he wanted to go to prison so his parents no longer had to take care of him and he would be free of the people who harass him.
Investigators do not believe Navarro knew Thiessen prior to the crash. They don’t think Navarro knew about Thiessen’s history in law enforcement.
Thiessen is survived by his daughter, two grandchildren, a sister, and many aunts, uncles, cousins, friend and neighbors.
The family is asking people to make donations in Phillip’s name to the Fondy Food Pantry, 573 W Rolling Meadows Dr, Fond du Lac, Wis.
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07-11-2020, 12:45
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That guy Navarro in that story is a straight up nut job.
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07-11-2020, 12:52
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To Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and all the idiotic and complicit Democrat mayors and governors...that couple in St. Louis in their front yard...and this guy (crip @ 19:38 below) were both successful in stopping their neighborhoods from being burned and looted...why ?
Strictly rhetorical question...THEY know why.
That means they are complicit in the violence, subversion and destruction going on in this country. They are in this up to their necks with this shit. As are many Republicans who have sold out the safety and well being of many of the citizens of this country.
Defund the police??? Then be prepared for more self-help. Lots of it. What piss poor (and predictable) public policy choices.
Very short clip of how to actually save your neighborhood...
19:38 - Crips Kick Out BLM
https://m.*******.com/watch?v=JehC69fNHts
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07-11-2020, 12:54
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“Navarro said he intentionally swerved into the path of the oncoming motorcycle with the intent to kill that operator, and that he chose a motorcycle instead of a car because he wanted the driver to die and not just be injured or paralyzed,” said Waldschmidt.
Hard to defend yourself against shit like that. Sitting in Wisconsin as I write this and feeling physically ill.
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07-11-2020, 14:21
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That guy Navarro in that story is a straight up nut job.
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No question. Issues would manifest someway or other eventually. Just for grins, take away tacit permission given by the most vocal of crazies in society these days and does he still fixate on the whiteness of H-D riders in a state filled with whiteness?
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07-11-2020, 14:43
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Someone has to do it. Similar situation in Chicago a few weeks ago.
This BS has to stop.
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07-11-2020, 15:09
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No question. Issues would manifest someway or other eventually. Just for grins, take away tacit permission given by the most vocal of crazies in society these days and does he still fixate on the whiteness of H-D riders in a state filled with whiteness?
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Yup. I understand your point.
Irresponsible rhetoric and the very public wrongful demonization of certain folks by those in authority (or sometimes silence or stand-down orders in the face of indefensible lawbreaking) has fanned the flames of the weak-minded, the criminals, the true believers and the nut jobs.
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07-11-2020, 16:34
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Someone has to do it. Similar situation in Chicago a few weeks ago.
This BS has to stop.
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Concur.
That was the job of the police - and despite the propaganda to the contrary for the vast majority of the time they (our police forces) were very, very dependable. Calls to defund are essentially power grabs and especially in urban areas are a recipe for disaster. We can see some of the results of such irresponsible demands already.
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07-12-2020, 07:59
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SENDING THE MESSAGE:
VP Mike Pence had a rally at the Philadelphia FOP lodge 5 hall in NE Phila. There was a HUGH crowd for Pence, couple of thousand; most were Active & Retired LEO & family, friends, a lot of MC club members and The usual small number of asshat protestors @100, blm, antifa etc.
Lots of Uniform Phila. Police officers. When the "protestors" looked like they were about to start "Demonstrating" the bikers started raving the engines of their bikes & moved toward the protestors, that scared the asshat sign carrying chanting mob to disperse.
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07-12-2020, 09:33
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The horse play continues to escalate. We've gone from the firing of people who state that All Lives Matter, to shooting people.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...fully-ignores/
Or maybe they shot her for being a descendant of a Pilgrim....
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07-12-2020, 13:58
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Concur.
That was the job of the police - and despite the propaganda to the contrary for the vast majority of the time they (our police forces) were very, very dependable. Calls to defund are essentially power grabs and especially in urban areas are a recipe for disaster. We can see some of the results of such irresponsible demands already.
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The defunding cry is beyond ridiculous. Are there "bad" cops? Sure. To categorize the police force in general and remove funds is no better than saying all (insert your choice of race here) are bad/racist/troublemakers etc.
Politicians need to grow some balls and get busy setting it straight.
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07-12-2020, 14:36
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Originally Posted by Gypsy
The defunding cry is beyond ridiculous. Are there "bad" cops? Sure. To categorize the police force in general and remove funds is no better than saying all (insert your choice of race here) are bad/racist/troublemakers etc.
Politicians need to grow some balls and get busy setting it straight.
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It’s not about defunding police or fairness. It’s about wanting no accountability whatsoever. BLM wants total freedom from lawless repercussions, or a free pass to commit crime!
It’s not even about equality it’s a special class only for them.
Good luck!
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