05-06-2007, 20:49
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New Army Combat Shirt
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Crye rip off and the logo is gay, but it should be better under the vests. Any bets as to whether the CSMs will let the troops wear it without BA on?
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05-06-2007, 21:12
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If they look like the model, I would.
Never had a troop like that before.
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05-06-2007, 21:23
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you can't wear that shirt without the body armor as long as it's got that gay logo in front (or w/o a little modification with a sharpie marker)
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05-06-2007, 21:48
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They should come up with an ACU vest that stows easily and can be put on quickly once your gear is grounded. That would satisfy the requirement for name tapes and rank patches.
I like what appears to be a reduction in the square footage of velcro on the sleeves. That stuff just ends up looking like shag carpet after you've been in the field anyway.
Not so sure that I like the Al Gore-esque mock turtleneck. A simple crew neck would have been better.
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05-06-2007, 22:48
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Maybe it is just the picture, but the pockets seem a lot smaller than the ACU top. Also, am I reading this correctly that there is going to be another set of clothing including pants? They are calling them Army Combat Pants and Army Combat Shirt. So when I go to my supply Sergeant and say I need new pants, I am going to get one or the other? Oh boy, seems like another logistical nightmare that could be averted with a simple name change. Is this supposed to replace my nomex uniform?
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05-07-2007, 07:36
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They should come up with an ACU vest that stows easily and can be put on quickly once your gear is grounded. That would satisfy the requirement for name tapes and rank patches.
I like what appears to be a reduction in the square footage of velcro on the sleeves. That stuff just ends up looking like shag carpet after you've been in the field anyway.
Not so sure that I like the Al Gore-esque mock turtleneck. A simple crew neck would have been better.
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They can steal the vest from the same place they stole the shirt. 
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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05-07-2007, 07:49
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They can steal the vest from the same place they stole the shirt. |
LOL, maybe they'll steal a new pattern while they're at it... 
Think this shirt will drive CSM's crazy? Wait until someone wears the black fleece over it.
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05-07-2007, 01:44
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Any bets as to whether the CSMs will let the troops wear it without BA on?
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I am sure you can gauge my current CSM's position without me even going there.
As a side....
Why is the center silohuetted with the foliage green? Fashion sense???
I also think the logo is rather gay....but like how the primary model really sticks it out there for us to see
This is a GREAT set up too. When the Army changes it's logo and slogan in another couple of years (for another 2 Billion dollars)....they get to rebid the entire contract .
Joe's are going to be beside themselves with all the friggin uniform "choices" they are going to have to keep up with. For the rest of us-it will just be one more thing we have to buy... 
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05-07-2007, 04:05
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Ah, the poor SGMs and CSMs
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Ah, the poor SGMs and CSMs. The Army has once again changed uniforms but this time they've come out with something between a T-shirt and Uniform jacket, although it leans to a jacket.
If you were in your T-shirt you used to be working/detail or off duty relaxing. Now? Who knows. Look for local reg's to come out baning it's wear without DCUs. Imagin, with hundreds walking around the PX, all the higherups who will fail to get their salutes?
How many months ago and we were talking about the change in the dress uniforms to Blues?
Whats wrong with just a few combat uniforms for different utility (pilots/grunts), made in a few different camo patterns and when you come out with a better material, change it?
Pete
Who liked the old gray sweats, cheap and long lasting.
edit: First Post of the Day - only one eye open and not enough coffee yet.
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05-07-2007, 04:11
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Pete
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AMEN TO THAT!!!
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05-10-2007, 12:10
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Pete
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Anything that took over from the bananasuit was welcomed.
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05-10-2007, 12:21
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Showing your age
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You're showing your age SITH. A few years prior to the bannana suit COL Bynam, the 5th Group CO, got everybody a snappy black track suit. It had white stripes on the sleeeves and legs with a 5th Group Logo in the left breast area. Sharp looking. Second and third orders were without the logo.
Alas, it didn't do well under PT and looked pretty shabby after a while.
About the same time I think the 7th was running around in a green track suit. But they had the same problems.
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05-10-2007, 12:22
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Yeah, but you didn't need a reflective belt with it.
I tried to get one made in E Tae Won with an Elvis cut, high collar, and rhinestones, just to wear to PT one time, but decided that I probably wouldn't get to 20 years of service doing things like that.
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05-10-2007, 19:53
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Aww, man... did ja haveta go and bring THAT up?
I've been assured there were two sizes, too small and too big.
Unfortunately for me - there was just one size, too big!
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05-11-2007, 08:54
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Moc turtle necks do suck, unless you're going for that business but casual look in a jacket and slacks. The parks and rec department changed our football coaching uniforms last year, and adopted a moc-neck loose fitting Under Armour shirt. Most irritating shirt I've ever put on. Particularly when I didn't feel like shaving on game day. Neck stubble, moc's and synthetic shirts don't mix.
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