02-25-2008, 10:45
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Early years of 12th Group?
Saw my first A Team in the Oklahoma State University Homecoming Parade in the Fall of 1964...Team walked in line...don't remember if they had weapons or not, but they had a big black Bouvier Des Flanders dog carrying his own ruck (we would have called it a backpack back then...).
I later lived in an apartment on Connell in Stillwater next door to the dog and the owner, an SF reservist.
My question to all of you SF historians out there: Was that Team a 12th Group team or was it the 12th at that time. What unit preceeded the 12th? I have the 2/12 Last Day coffee cup...dates are 1959-1994.
Does anyone remember the dog or the owner???
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02-25-2008, 11:02
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12th SFG(A) started 21 March 1961 in the USAR and was deactivated 15 September 1995.
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02-25-2008, 15:06
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Saw my first A Team in the Oklahoma State University Homecoming Parade in the Fall of 1964...Team walked in line...don't remember if they had weapons or not, but they had a big black Bouvier Des Flanders dog carrying his own ruck (we would have called it a backpack back then...).
I later lived in an apartment on Connell in Stillwater next door to the dog and the owner, an SF reservist.
My question to all of you SF historians out there: Was that Team a 12th Group team or was it the 12th at that time. What unit preceeded the 12th? I have the 2/12 Last Day coffee cup...dates are 1959-1994.
Does anyone remember the dog or the owner???
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I can't answer your question; however, here in the Seattle area, I joined the SF Reserve in June '61 and it was a numbered unit that started with a (3.) I don't think it was associated with a Group.
Shortly afterwards the unit was turned into Group HQs 17th SFGA. After a few years the 17th SFGA was disbanded. We became members of the 12th SFGA. Of course now, all in this area belong to the 19th SFGA (NG)
The 17th SFGA covered most of the West coast. The HQ's for the 12th was on the East coast. My units both in the 17th and the 12th were stationed at Ft. Lawton and NAS Seattle.
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02-25-2008, 19:20
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I worked at the Medical Platoon in the Service Company '82-'86 at 12th Group HQ in Arlington Heights IL, but drilled some with the Forward Med Ops Team in Tulsa. Never saw any dogs though....It was pretty impressive at the time...enough to get me later to Benning, Bragg, and several other very interesting places.....and to work with incredible people. I carry my Coin every day......you'd be surprised how often I get to use it ...
How many of you still carry your Coins?
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02-25-2008, 19:27
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I can't answer your question; however, here in the Seattle area, I joined the SF Reserve in June '61 and it was a numbered unit that started with a (3.) I don't think it was associated with a Group.
Shortly afterwards the unit was turned into Group HQs 17th SFGA. After a few years the 17th SFGA was disbanded. We became members of the 12th SFGA. Of course now, all in this area belong to the 19th SFGA (NG)
The 17th SFGA covered most of the West coast. The HQ's for the 12th was on the East coast. My units both in the 17th and the 12th were stationed at Ft. Lawton and NAS Seattle.
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301st FD Det?? There were also the 300th, 302nd, 303rd.
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02-25-2008, 22:37
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301st FD Det?? There were also the 300th, 302nd, 303rd.
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I'm afraid CRS has struck home! It did start with a (3)
I carry a few coins Ranger (RICA) 12th, 19th and a King County Sheriff SWAT team coin. I also have and carry a numbered SF Regimental Coin.
I never did see a 17th SFGA coin, but I'd love to have one!
I also have a couple of nice 1st Group 'Menton Day' coins that are really cool!
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02-26-2008, 11:08
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I'm afraid CRS has struck home! It did start with a (3)
I carry a few coins Ranger (RICA) 12th, 19th and a King County Sheriff SWAT team coin. I also have and carry a numbered SF Regimental Coin.
I never did see a 17th SFGA coin, but I'd love to have one!
I also have a couple of nice 1st Group 'Menton Day' coins that are really cool!
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I checked on norbay.com for the 17th Group Coin...didn't see one. Have you considered designing one? Did you ever know Vince Sipanzi, the 12th Group chaplain...he deisigned the original 12th coin...I had one at one time...cannot for the life of me find it now...my current 12th coin is one of the new enameled ones....
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02-29-2008, 15:15
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Original from the 12th at Chicago
I joined the 12th SF (Reserve) after I read in the newspaper that the Group was just starting up in Chicago and was looking for prior service SF personal to form a new reserve unit in the area.....I joined. This unit moved from Chicago to Oak Park and finally Arlington Heights....Anyone who was in the Chicago initial unit I would really like to hear from......
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02-29-2008, 16:31
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My 12th SFGA coin is the old bronze one with the spade on the back.
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03-18-2008, 19:43
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Spade
Mine was the bronze Spade Back coin too...got it from SFC now SGM? Andy A.....now I can't find it or a source for an original...anyone know where they might be available? It was the coin I smacked on the table at Eglin in '84...engraved and all..
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09-07-2008, 15:57
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12th & 17th Group License Plate Frames
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09-07-2008, 18:49
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Great finds, skydoc! I will always treasure my time in the 12th SFGA. I only wish the USAR had possessed more "political muscle" in the '90's!
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09-11-2008, 13:09
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Great finds, skydoc! I will always treasure my time in the 12th SFGA. I only wish the USAR had possessed more "political muscle" in the '90's!
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I agree, that was a terrific find. I also appreciated my time in the 12th......
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10-01-2008, 20:53
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B/1/12
Was in B/1/12 at Arlington Heights from 88 to 94. Most of the time on 1224.
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10-07-2008, 07:12
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1st Bn HHD 12th SFGA Richards Gebauer AFB
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