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Old 08-06-2018, 23:37   #1
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Revision of 1st amendment

As a SF soldier I feel like I have some thick skin but.......words have meanings and should have consequences....I will explain the additional caveat to free speech

I have been on a binge lately watching ANTIFA snowflakes getting destroyed by an INFOWARS guy named Owen Shroyer...absolutely epic destruction and exposure of liberal leftards lunacy

The videos are classicly hilarious watching Shroyer ask questions and back his information with facts (I have fact checked him he is on it) and offer the lefties a chance to substantiate their argument on his platform when the lefties make generalized accusations he offers them the platform to further their protest cause with facts and simply asks them to present an example......of course few if any have any and simply lose their minds with the mind grenades he throws after he has pulled the pin.....IMO after watching many videos he will listen to reasonable debate and offers the lefty a platform to further their protest.....the responses he gets are amazingly ignorant and hilarious but sad as well.

Yes I know what INFOWARS is and Alex Jones conspiracies can be out there but this guy is amazing at drawing out the irrationality of the left. We all know that he is going to have a conservative view but his job as a partisan is to highlight the other side. I have yet to see him cowl down and is willing to discuss rationally the point if their is one. Their are some gold for conservatives who have watched some of these protests the funny is when he ferrets out professors but he makes a point of how sad the state of higher education is in America especially when he runs across educators who are involved.

The revision is this IMO if a snowflake can get in your face and call you every name in the book unprovoked and threaten etc....to a certain extent the one being verbally assaulted should reserve the right to beat the ever living piss out of the verbal assaulter.....the dishonesty in these protests are not just the intolerance but the hypocrisy of ANTIFA protesters for example to say things they would never say without the LEO protection that is their to keep it peaceful as they can....the same LEO they are protesting LOLOL.....I say an FU or go F yourself is worthy of a few SERE slaps in retaliation it worked for my Mother when I got caught talking like that.

The old stick and stones saying is not and never has been true anywhere in the world....words have meanings and do hurt people.....to be verbally abused in the era of bullying being defined additionally beyonf physical as verbal intimidation or internet stalking as having negative consequences then so should the same go for a politically opposed a-hole....I can ignore alot of stuff but the venom some of these people spew would challenge Job to keep his cool.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:12   #2
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WD - I think you are on to something. It has gotten even worse: if you look at what happened to Candace Owens yesterday(?), they flat-out committed assault. They put a bullhorn in her ear and screamed (agg assault?). They "touched" her with a bull horn and their bodily effluent (spit) was hitting her. That is flat-out assault consummated by battery.

What shocked me is that the cops stood by and didn't intervene or make arrests. They even let the antifa thug throw a bottle/cup of water at the male (can't recall his name) without arresting him.

They are going to do this to one of us soon and it won't go the way they think. If I am surrounded by superior numbers (disparity of force), my mobility is removed, and I am being prohibited from leaving (restraint/kidnapping), I am going to up the ante until they either let me leave or the violence hits a crescendo. I will not wait for them to start heel-stomping me as too many of these folks are doing. I refuse to allow some coward to lunge out of the crowd and smack me in the head with a bike-lock. It's going to get real ugly, real quick.

The left has been very good at employing "lawfare" against the right for decades, it's about time we do the same. Candace should file a claim against the police that they stood by and allowed the assaults to continue. The cops could have made any number of arrests as they were about equal in numbers. They could have arrested the thugs for disturbance/breach of peace; false imprisonment; assault; battery; harassment; hate crime(s); etc...etc. Yet, they did nothing.

NOT the fault of the cops....this is policy driven by the higher bureaucrats. I suspect the cops would have loved to have dealt some wood-shampoos out and given a few of these scrotes the lightning ride.

They better get a grip on this stuff before it gets much worse....there's not a whole heck of a lot of maneuver room left.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:22   #3
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I have to say, both Candice and Charlie showed great restraint against those ANTIFA snowflakes. I would have knocked that fat bitch out if it were me. Go ahead, throw something at me, call me names you slob; but I have the right to throat punch your ass. These people have gotten away with so much crap, I am sure the cops would just love to give them a nice baton to the head. It is assault if you spit, and throw anything, even water. Blind eye? No, because ANTIFA have carried this on way too far and it needs to stop. Why is it OK to smash windows, ram a bull horn in someone's ear, hit someone with a chain/lock? It's not, and it will get ugly if someone decides to retaliate. Those ANTIFA pukes need to go back to their parents basement.

Society as a whole has gotten worse, I would have had my ass beaten by my parents if I did the shit they get away with today. Its called respect for others, and for different opinions and thoughts. It's not one-sided, and never should be. The Left have spewed hatred, and venom for way too long because if their side does not win; they want to throw temper tantrums, march in the streets and say "It's Not Fair"....Well, nothing is fair in life (Man, and do I know that) and we have to accept the fact that things don't always go our way. That is the difference between "Us" and "Them"; we can move forward, think ahead and fight another day. Well almost; I still want to punch that cow in the face......
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:04   #4
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They better get a grip on this stuff before it gets much worse....there's not a whole heck of a lot of maneuver room left.
With about 90 days until the election I have a feeling that the clock has run out on getting a handle on this craziness, I expect it to get far worse.
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Old 08-07-2018, 08:40   #5
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The funny thing is their "facts" come from mainstream media not vetted but even worse when asked protestors don't seem to know why they do what they do......I also wonder after looking at Craigslist job ads which protestor organized the activity since I see ads for activist paying upwards of 1500 a week...not sure if they are related but common sense tells me that many of these protestors are co-opted by an organizer on false pretenses.....lol no probably not they are all irrational loonies that defy logical explanation
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:41   #6
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WD - I think you are on to something. It has gotten even worse: if you look at what happened to Candace Owens yesterday(?), they flat-out committed assault. They put a bullhorn in her ear and screamed (agg assault?). They "touched" her with a bull horn and their bodily effluent (spit) was hitting her. That is flat-out assault consummated by battery.
Bingo sir. Out of curiosity I checked my own state statutes on this, and that would be the take here. Effluence of bodily fluids is battery which, in this case, was preceded by the in-your-face threatening manner (assault). (Bodily fluids; anyone remember the huge outcry over a sweaty pro basketball player that had tested HIV+?)

Bottom line at the Bottom: Justifies defensive response to eliminate the threat with certainty. (Caveat: I try to avoid crowds & stay away from commie enclaves.)
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Old 08-07-2018, 14:27   #7
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WD - I think you are on to something. It has gotten even worse: if you look at what happened to Candace Owens yesterday(?), they flat-out committed assault. They put a bullhorn in her ear and screamed (agg assault?). They "touched" her with a bull horn and their bodily effluent (spit) was hitting her. That is flat-out assault consummated by battery.

What shocked me is that the cops stood by and didn't intervene or make arrests. They even let the antifa thug throw a bottle/cup of water at the male (can't recall his name) without arresting him.

They are going to do this to one of us soon and it won't go the way they think. If I am surrounded by superior numbers (disparity of force), my mobility is removed, and I am being prohibited from leaving (restraint/kidnapping), I am going to up the ante until they either let me leave or the violence hits a crescendo. I will not wait for them to start heel-stomping me as too many of these folks are doing. I refuse to allow some coward to lunge out of the crowd and smack me in the head with a bike-lock. It's going to get real ugly, real quick.

The left has been very good at employing "lawfare" against the right for decades, it's about time we do the same. Candace should file a claim against the police that they stood by and allowed the assaults to continue. The cops could have made any number of arrests as they were about equal in numbers. They could have arrested the thugs for disturbance/breach of peace; false imprisonment; assault; battery; harassment; hate crime(s); etc...etc. Yet, they did nothing.

NOT the fault of the cops....this is policy driven by the higher bureaucrats. I suspect the cops would have loved to have dealt some wood-shampoos out and given a few of these scrotes the lightning ride.

They better get a grip on this stuff before it gets much worse....there's not a whole heck of a lot of maneuver room left.
It’s only a matter of time before the thrown “water” comes from a car battery vice a tap. The leftists are dangerous because they are unpredictable.
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Old 08-07-2018, 16:42   #8
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It’s only a matter of time before the thrown “water” comes from a car battery vice a tap. The leftists are dangerous because they are unpredictable.
You are both right it is beyond peaceful protest at this point....lucky for us we eat meat and are alpha's that is why watching Owen Shroyer is so funny and the reason he is called Owen Shroyer the cuck destroyer.....also of note to watch are the proud boys wearing their MAGA hats and pro Trump paraphanelia
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My wife and I used to enjoy "date night" down on the River Walk, but that is now history because violence against conservatives and/or anyone having the gall to have been born white is justified on a daily basis by the media. I no longer frequent any establishment that does not allow concealed carry by its patrons, although this is a rarity in Texas. My friends, one morning very soon you will wake up and hear on the news how battery acid has replaced water be thrown in faces and clubs have been replaced by firearms. This is going to get worse because it is basically unchecked. There were 74 shootings resulting in 12 deaths this weekend in Chicago - there were 0 arrests associated with the violence. Why Maxine Waters has not been arrested for inciting this violence is beyond me.
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And in other news/on other fronts:

https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...down-infowars/

What was it,"Politics is warfare by other means."?
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And in other news/on other fronts:

https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...down-infowars/

What was it,"Politics is warfare by other means."?
So, Murphy only wants to crush free speech if you consider yourself a Conservative, because it does not follow his Leftist Agenda? Boo Hoo.....the most vile comments, volatile actions, and down right nastiness has primarily come from the Left. Sen. Murphy needs a boot up his ass. Oh, heaven forbid if I call a "Spade a Spade" now days. Well, Sen. Murphy...a spade is a spade no matter how you try to conceal it.... Politics as usual. I guess it's time to "watch your back" (and your buddies) if you are a Conservative anymore. It's a darn shame....

By the way...Maxine Waters BLOWS......
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:09   #12
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My wife and I used to enjoy "date night" down on the River Walk, but that is now history because violence against conservatives and/or anyone having the gall to have been born white is justified on a daily basis by the media. I no longer frequent any establishment that does not allow concealed carry by its patrons, although this is a rarity in Texas. My friends, one morning very soon you will wake up and hear on the news how battery acid has replaced water be thrown in faces and clubs have been replaced by firearms. This is going to get worse because it is basically unchecked. There were 74 shootings resulting in 12 deaths this weekend in Chicago - there were 0 arrests associated with the violence. Why Maxine Waters has not been arrested for inciting this violence is beyond me.

I agree Waters should be held accountable for her leadership....exactly my point words matter they are not harmless. I can't understand how bullying is such an issue but protestors trying to intimidate conservatives is not the same....the left defines free speech much different than the rest of us how can a protest be peaceful if it provokes and incites? either bullying is real or it isn't regardless of justification
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I agree Waters should be held accountable for her leadership....exactly my point words matter they are not harmless. I can't understand how bullying is such an issue but protestors trying to intimidate conservatives is not the same....the left defines free speech much different than the rest of us how can a protest be peaceful if it provokes and incites? either bullying is real or it isn't regardless of justification
I am 100% certain if you got in Maxine Waters face with a bullhorn and your spittle hit her you would be arrested and charged.

Like SouthernDZ, I conceal carry everywhere here in Texas, if an establishment is posted not allowing CC then I decline to go there.

I'm also avoiding going to events with large crowds. The socialists keep upping their rhetoric as well as their violence.

If only we had an Attorney General......
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If only we had an Attorney General......
Understand this coming semester his picture will be on the back of the milk cartons at the elementary school.
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Bubblehead and SouthernDZ - we should get together at the Pearl or somewhere for coffee/slugfest. The three of us could occupy the River-walk by force.

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