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Old 05-07-2017, 14:02   #1
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French election: Macron 'defeats Le Pen to become president

I'm not a France watcher so I can't say I have any particular opinion about either Le Pen or Macron. Macron won basically 65% to her 35%, so there is that. The interaction with the current events in the ME will probably tell a lot, and there's the question of Macron's support of the EU and how Brexit is going to ring with France in the economic chambers.

I'm not optimistic. I'd like to be able to look at the big picture, the geo-political and the economic perspectives and gain an appreciation of where the world's military posture is headed in the next 5-10 years. I have a feeling which is not altogether uncommon in old men that we're about to re-live one of the world's great and horrible war epics. An epic from which our country will be forever changed on the other side.

Hopefully, I am like Seneca: "There is nothing so wretched or foolish as to anticipate misfortunes. What madness it is in your expecting evil before it arrives! There is nothing so wretched or foolish as to anticipate misfortunes. What madness it is in your expecting evil before it arrives!"

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French election: Macron 'defeats Le Pen to become president'

Centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron has decisively won the French presidential election, projected results say.

Mr Macron defeated far-right candidate Marine Le Pen by about 65.5% to 34.5% to become, at 39, the country's youngest president, the results show.

Mr Macron will also become the first president from outside the two traditional main parties since the modern republic's foundation in 1958.

He said that a "new chapter of hope and confidence is opening".

Mr Macron's supporters gathered to celebrate in central Paris after the bitterly fought election concluded on Sunday amid massive security.

The Macron team said that the new president had had a "cordial" telephone conversation with Ms Le Pen.

In a speech she thanked the 11 million people who had voted for her. She said the election had shown a division between "patriots and globalists" and called for the emergence of a new political force.

Ms Le Pen said her National Front party needed to renew itself and that she would start the "deep transformation of our movement", vowing to lead it into upcoming parliamentary elections.

She also said she had wished Mr Macron success in tackling the "huge challenges" facing him.

President François Hollande congratulated Mr Macron and said the result showed the French people wanted to unite around the "values of the republic".

The BBC's Hugh Schofield in Paris says this is the most remarkable success story of how a man who three years ago was utterly unknown to the French public, through sheer self-belief, energy - and connections - forged a political movement that has trounced all the established French political parties.

There were scattered boos as the projections were announced. A few moments of quiet, uncertain chatter followed. Then supporters gave a subdued rendition of the French national anthem. Many were carrying blue-coloured roses - Marine Le Pen's chosen symbol.

The defeat will not have come as a surprise - the fact that such a small venue was booked is an indication that the campaign suspected it would lose.

There were cheers for Marine Le Pen as she delivered her speech. During an interview afterwards, one senior party official explained to me that a new movement would now be formed - he didn't give a name for it. Once I finished the interview, he raised his glass of champagne and said "Vive la France".

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Old 05-07-2017, 17:27   #2
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Europe enjoys being "ruled", by either kings and queens or a corrupt left-wing socialist/communist groups.

A big win for the muslims, now they take over france.
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Europe enjoys being "ruled", by either kings and queens or a corrupt left-wing socialist/communist groups.

A big win for the muslims, now they take over france.
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Old 05-08-2017, 04:03   #4
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La Pan is very anti-muslim,, I think the Muslims throw all their weight to Moron..

Frau Merkel and the 4th Reich (EU) has captured France for the 3rd time..

They were screaming the Ruskies rigged the election.. Not any more..

I wonder if voter fraud investigation(s) will quietly disappear like the smoke from Choom gang joints..



Just read this little gem.

It looks like the French countryman were not all that interested in the elections??

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Paris (AFP) - A third of French voters declined to choose between centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right leader Marine Le Pen in Sunday's presidential election, either abstaining or spoiling their ballots -- a record rate in nearly half a century.

According to official results with more than 80 percent of votes counted, the abstention rate stood at 24.52 percent -- the highest since the presidential election in 1969.

In addition, the interior ministry reported a record number of blank and invalid ballots, accounting for nine percent of all registered voters, compared to two percent in the first round.

"That would make a total of one French person out of three who decided not to choose between the two candidates. It's really a lot for a presidential election," Anne Jadot, political science professor at the University of Lorraine, told AFP.

Macron claimed a thumping victory Sunday with some 65 percent of the vote, but it was the first time since the 1969 election that participation in the second round has been lower than in the first, which saw him and Le Pen go through to the run-off as the highest-scoring candidates.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/third-fre...232518210.html
Apathy and indifference, won the election??
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:43   #5
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Rising Rightwing Millennials and Generation Z

It's more of a generational thing. While millennials and generation Z get a lot of hate, they're actually becoming more conservative while the boomers are stuck in their old ways. Give France more time for millennials/gen Z to grow, then we'll see the mass right wing movement of elected officials. Hopefully the Muslim population isn't out of control by then.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ne...-a7723291.html

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Almost half of young French voters voted for Marine Le Pen in the presidential run-off, early indications suggest.

Some 44 per cent of 18 to 24-year-olds backed the Front National leader, compared with 56 per cent who voted for centrist Emmanuel Macron, according to projections.

The far-right Ms Le Pen secured more support among young voters than any other age group.By contrast, she was backed by just 20 per cent of over 65s.

Overall, forecasts suggest Mr Macron secured around 65 per cent of votes to Ms Le Pen’s 35 per cent.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:52   #6
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Give France more time.
Hopefully the Muslim population isn't out of control by then.
France may be out of time, regardless of who won the election.
Is your take that the Muslim population in France is "under control"?
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Is your take that the Muslim population in France is "under control"?
Their 6% percent make up of the population isn't enough to largely control and sway votes, yet... Now of course I'm aware of their ghettos, sharia zones in cities, and ever growing population. Yeah those are not under control. I'm talking about Muslims not being able to control or significantly impact future votes.
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Their 6% percent make up of the population isn't enough to largely control and sway votes, yet... Now of course I'm aware of their ghettos, sharia zones in cities, and ever growing population. Yeah those are not under control. I'm talking about Muslims not being able to control or significantly impact future votes.
That 6%,, allowed Le Pen to garner 35% of the vote based on her "get rid of the Muslims" position..

That and the published riots and no-go ghetto(S), lead me to believe that France is precariously close to collapse..


The apathy showed by the voter turnout is also indicative of a failing system.


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That 6%,, allowed Le Pen to garner 35% of the vote based on her "get rid of the Muslims" position..

That and the published riots and no-go ghetto(S), lead me to believe that France is precariously close to collapse..


The apathy showed by the voter turnout is also indicative of a failing system.
Very true. I'm just talking about the ability of Muslims swaying votes for elections in their favor. Le Pen's position was supported by young people more than any other age group as cited in my previous post. That finding shows hope for France. Yes France is failing but it hasn't fallen yet. It's the older diversity indoctrinated French population that led to Le Pen's defeat. Once they die out (No offense to French baby boomers) Le Pen or someone like her will get elected by the rising conservative youth. Age demograpich played a big role in her loss.

Judging from this research I'd say France is finished if their Muslim population reaches around 20%. Before they come close to hitting that number, Le Pen or someone like her will get elected and clean house. Still hope but just sucks the change can't come sooner, more French will continue to suffer because of it but I see them prevailing in the long run. Either that or a Crusade 2.0 will happen which is also fine with me.

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By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine. com | Monday, April 21, 2008


The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:


Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
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Europe enjoys being "ruled", by either kings and queens or a corrupt left-wing socialist/communist groups.

A big win for the muslims, now they take over france.
+1 The only decision the French voters will have is which version of Sharia they'd like this week.

Merkel's little puppet is now an ally in punishing the other Euro states who don't want to play in her end-game; and who may look for support from a different azimuth... literally.
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Old 05-09-2017, 03:10   #11
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France new boss has an interesting story with his much older wife that started when he was her student while attending high school.

If she's a hard core leftist, that will make for jucier Manchurian Candidate stories than with President Obama.

As I understand it, poor voter participation left a LOT of folks on the sidelines in France. Possibly the lowest turnout since 1981, but before all ballots have been fully counted and compared.

France also seems to have far lower big brand social media participation(Facebook, Twitter, Instagram).

France has always been a Western outlier in terms of mass media, entertainment content, and internet/social media.

At one point France had their own domestic "internet" called Minitel that still had 10 million connections less than a decade ago, before it was shut down capitulating to the global internet.

Despite all the hate directed at major internet social media properties, particularly their leadership/shareholders......which way do users actually vote?

France a western outlier(under consumption of non-French western social/media content).

France has an outlier(to the trend) election.

Correlation/causation?
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