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Old 10-28-2016, 18:28   #16
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Marlin was bought by the consortium that owns Remington, and there was subsequently a lot of incompetence, if not actual sabotage in the production line.

If I were looking for a Marlin lever action rifle, it would have to be an older model or one that a gunsmith inspected and approved of.

Alternates would include Browning, Winchester, Rossi, Savage, etc. The Winchester 92 and 94 in .357 have been a bit fragile and problematic. Good carbine calibers are the .357 and .44 Magnums, and the .45 Colt. The Magnums will generally come close to delivering the performance people expect from their revolvers in those calibers. Handloaders can create some powerful rounds from those pistol cartridges that are safe for the rifle. Good rifle calibers include the .30-30, the .45-70, and any other flat or round bullet shape, as the tubular magazine will not safely allow you to load with pointed or spitzer bullets. The lever exceptions are the Winchester 1895 and Savage 99, which have a box magazines and can handle a variety of higher-performance pointed rifle rounds.

Completely agree with getting the car ready and filling all vehicle fuel tanks.

I tend to stay up on most election nights watching the returns, that might not be a bad idea for other reasons this time.

I will probably check out the first aid and trauma kits, too, just in case. I just checked the fire extinguishers and changed the smoke detector batteries last week.

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Old 10-28-2016, 18:47   #17
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Geeze, is it really that bad? I'm over here in the Far East right now so I don't get a real "temperature" reading of the United States. My folks aren't good information sources as they are out of the "lines of drift" if anything bad happens in the cities.

The news is so biased it just gets headline type stories so I don't read into them. From your on the ground report, in your area, is it, honest to God (or self if so inclined), that worrisome?

There isn't much I can think of that I can do here where I'm at. I have a supply of food, water, fuel, etc for natural disasters. However, if things were to collapse like the Soviet Union did, my family and I will be in a world of hurt over here. All preps, supplies, weapons, ammo, etc are back home in the states.

Thoughts/advice if you were in my shoes with the limited information I gave you. My parents are pretty self sufficient and very open to receiving supplies.

My gut says my family and I are okay, but is that complacency bias setting in?
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Old 10-28-2016, 19:31   #18
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Geeze, is it really that bad? I'm over here in the Far East right now so I don't get a real "temperature" reading of the United States. My folks aren't good information sources as they are out of the "lines of drift" if anything bad happens in the cities.

The news is so biased it just gets headline type stories so I don't read into them. From your on the ground report, in your area, is it, honest to God (or self if so inclined), that worrisome?

There isn't much I can think of that I can do here where I'm at. I have a supply of food, water, fuel, etc for natural disasters. However, if things were to collapse like the Soviet Union did, my family and I will be in a world of hurt over here. All preps, supplies, weapons, ammo, etc are back home in the states.

Thoughts/advice if you were in my shoes with the limited information I gave you. My parents are pretty self sufficient and very open to receiving supplies.

My gut says my family and I are okay, but is that complacency bias setting in?
I think the odds are low for such an occurrence, but the potential cost of such an incident is high. Tempers are running short, and expectations are mounting. Rumors of voter fraud are rampant and growing. The logical progression is for trouble to start in the larger cities and spread to the smaller ones, but as Ferguson proved, that is not always the case. Anywhere you have large groups of college students, anarchists, socialists, the unemployed, the poor, minorities, the disenfranchised, the hopeless, etc., you can easily use a few agitators to create a problem. Did you watch the Arab Spring? Are things better in those countries now than they were before? Are the movements we supported more pro-American than they were before? If you can find a copy, a book entitled "Unintended Consequences" would be a good primer to see how we got where we are with regards to the 2nd Amendment, and how a crisis could come about from a political problem.

I believe in being prepared, and there is little cost in buying a few extra cans of food, topping off the fuel tanks, or picking up some spare mags. Hell, even a spare rifle and pistol or two. If you don't need them right now, just store them away till you do. I value our preparedness over a shiny new car, an expensive watch, or an expensive vacation.

I live in a nice quiet neighborhood, but there is potential for unrest just a few miles away. I believe that being prepared to deal with contingencies is my responsibility to my family.

Among many threats, our entire nation is greatly at risk from disruption of the electrical grid. Whether caused by solar events, hacking of the grid, or an actual EMP attack, the loss of electrical power across a large portion of this country for more than a few days will cause a horrific end to this once great country. Our government knows that, but has done very little to prepare for it. It is almost like they are hoping for it. If you have not read it already, I suggest you take a look at "One Second After", by Forstchen.

Personally, I believe that civilization is on a gradual downward spiral. It may slow or even stop temporarily, but in the long-term, the trend is down.

I have seen America when it was great, but the lunatics have taken over the asylum now. PC is rampant. Good people fear speaking the truth. Men playing children's games are worshiped as heroes, and their opinions are considered Gospel. Actors and "musicians" are political experts. Religious beliefs (even those that wish to destroy us) are sacrosanct, except for Christians, who founded this country. And the media has completely abrogated their role and has clearly chosen sides in this. What really worries me is what kind of world will my kids and grand-kids grow up in?

We have largely lost the spirit that founded this country, and now have too many takers and not enough makers. Resources are being depleted. Manufacturing here is on life support. Socialism is making a strong comeback. Morals are low, there is no shame, and thugs are worshiped as heroes. And most Americans today value their security over their freedom.

Just my .02, YMMV.

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Old 10-28-2016, 19:58   #19
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^^^^I agree, it will not take much to push some folks past the edge of complacency and into active insurgency. Even if local at first it will spread globally as the national identity is reset.
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Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason to do so is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year.

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I was on Aim Surplus this morning ordering mags that were "in stock". Nothing out of the ordinary, I buy something at every season change. By the time I entered my account info, they were "out of stock". Fortunately I have plenty but it was interesting.

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Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year.
You might want to escape before the borders close. The CA AZ border, that is.

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Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year.
That is a fine establishment! I shop there whenever I can, even though it is really far from my house.
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I think the odds are low for such an occurrence, but the potential cost of such an incident is high. Tempers are running short, and expectations are mounting. Rumors of voter fraud are rampant and growing. The logical progression is for trouble to start in the larger cities and spread to the smaller ones, but as Ferguson proved, that is not always the case. Anywhere you have large groups of college students, anarchists, socialists, the unemployed, the poor, minorities, the disenfranchised, the hopeless, etc., you can easily use a few agitators to create a problem. Did you watch the Arab Spring? Are things better in those countries now than they were before? Are the movements we supported more pro-American than they were before? If you can find a copy, a book entitled "Unintended Consequences" would be a good primer to see how we got where we are with regards to the 2nd Amendment, and how a crisis could come about from a political problem.

I believe in being prepared, and there is little cost in buying a few extra cans of food, topping off the fuel tanks, or picking up some spare mags. Hell, even a spare rifle and pistol or two. If you don't need them right now, just store them away till you do. I value our preparedness over a shiny new car, an expensive watch, or an expensive vacation.

I live in a nice quiet neighborhood, but there is potential for unrest just a few miles away. I believe that being prepared to deal with contingencies is my responsibility to my family.

Among many threats, our entire nation is greatly at risk from disruption of the electrical grid. Whether caused by solar events, hacking of the grid, or an actual EMP attack, the loss of electrical power across a large portion of this country for more than a few days will cause a horrific end to this once great country. Our government knows that, but has done very little to prepare for it. It is almost like they are hoping for it. If you have not read it already, I suggest you take a look at "One Second After", by Forstchen.

Personally, I believe that civilization is on a gradual downward spiral. It may slow or even stop temporarily, but in the long-term, the trend is down.

I have seen America when it was great, but the lunatics have taken over the asylum now. PC is rampant. Good people fear speaking the truth. Men playing children's games are worshiped as heroes, and their opinions are considered Gospel. Actors and "musicians" are political experts. Religious beliefs (even those that wish to destroy us) are sacrosanct, except for Christians, who founded this country. And the media has completely abrogated their role and has clearly chosen sides in this. What really worries me is what kind of world will my kids and grand-kids grow up in?

We have largely lost the spirit that founded this country, and now have too many takers and not enough makers. Resources are being depleted. Manufacturing here is on life support. Socialism is making a strong comeback. Morals are low, there is no shame, and thugs are worshiped as heroes. And most Americans today value their security over their freedom.

Just my .02, YMMV.

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cross thread reference!

well, TR sure epitomizes the Angry Man

Thank you for the heads up, Reaper Sir. I shoulder have known when the ammo at Academy were flying off the shelves.
Was planning to rid my bang stick, case, and ammo for extra funds. I guess I'll keep them after all.


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The Angry Man is not, and never will be, a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina. He got his people together and got the hell out. Then, he went back in to rescue those who needed help or were too stupid to help themselves in the first place. He was selfless in this, just as often a civilian as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter. Victimhood syndrome buzzwords; “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” don’t resonate with The Angry Man. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him.
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Think I better go and stock up on some ammo at Bass Pro Shops in Rancho Cucamonga before the election. Another reason is the fact that California Proposition 63 is probably going to pass and make it difficult and expensive to obtain ammo after the beginning of the New Year.
say hello to the "featureless rifle." Only thing left is to paint it any color other than black

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Geeze, is it really that bad?
lol Neg

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ALWAYS be prepared for Anything, though.
ANYTHING.
BLM and LaRaza will go wild in the streets
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lol To get to me on my "street", have to pass through about 746 30-30's.

This neck o' the woods is chock full of Americans. You know, as opposed to wannabe eurotrash.

There are too many hombres left in the Country who don't resemble the male roommate on "Three's Company" to let the whole thing go down the tubes, Paslode.
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lol To get to me on my "street", have to pass through about 746 30-30's.

This neck o' the woods is chock full of Americans. You know, as opposed to wannabe eurotrash.

There are too many hombres left in the Country who don't resemble the male roommate on "Three's Company" to let the whole thing go down the tubes, Paslode.

I gotta move closer to the forest.
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