Why American's are getting fat!

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Chucko

I think he got out because of a bad back.

Did you apologize?

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by PSM

All of that aside, I eat that stuff too and have been 150# for almost 20 years.

We RONed in the RV at a casino and had breakfast in their cafe. I ate half of my hash browns and scraped the poached eggs and ham of my eggs benedict off the muffin. My son had half of his meal put in a doggie box. Too many people eat everything placed before them.

That's my opinion as well. It is less about what you eat and more about how much you eat.

Businesses have not conspired to make people addicted to processed food, rather they used what is cheapest and preserves the longest.

If you hate high furctose corn syrup, blame government price controls on sugar.

[GratefulCitizen]

The problem with hyperpalatable foods is variation among humans.
Ghrelin and leptin responses vary, as well as other hormones and neurotransmitters.

What may be fine for one person triggers problems in another.
It's hard to say what the long term effects are of introducing excess hyperpalatable foods to children.

[tom kelly]

This is a health problem in the U S A that is the forerunner of Heart Disease, Stroke,High Blood Pressure, Diabetes and myriad of other diseases. The Diet Industry is one of the largest and fastest growing business in this country today.That should tell us something about eating too much of the wrong kinds of foods and our collective lack of physical activity....tom kelly

[PSM]

MORE: I went for a final follow up with my emergency surgeon yesterday and she is on the first floor of a 2 story building and my primary care doc is on the second floor. As I came out of her office a young guy about my son's age (30) entered the elevator. I took the stairs to make an appointment with my Doc for my annual physical. I got to the 2nd floor before the elevator arrived. The young guy followed me into the doc's office. He was tall and thin, and didn't limp. I haven't taken an elevator in decades. Maybe it's just me having lived in earthquake country for so long. I know for a fact that my son does not take elevators or escalators.

Are humans going to evolve into legless creatures?

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Hyperpalatable foods.

Food companies have effectively created addictive drugs which happen to have some nutritional value.
They're allowed to market these to children, and start the addiction early.

Yeah true processed foods are unnatural and our bodies respond and when we say processed everything even sugar......and imagine that scientist who have said it for years have shown evidence that cancer cells react to sugar and causes growth at an alarming rate....scientists are not able to agree on the damage processed foods cause but they know their is addictive properties and unnatural physiological responses unlike natural whole foods that are not altered genetically from their natural state......the addictive properties being added and altered reminds me of the Tobacco companies being finally called out in the 80's.

If you look at livestock I grew up working livestock and always fed cattle with feed corn a salt block and little ruffage why? they are ruminants!?.....because I was raised in the midwest around mass production stockyards this is what everyone there did and what was taught in vo-ag schools.....it is an unnatural food for a ruminant but was raised in the cattle production world where 20-100,000 head stockyards are fattening cattle for commercial slaughterhouses as feeders I worked in those as well and in the 80's we slaughtered 400 head an hour for 20 hours a day........the corn causes all sorts of diseases for these animals and unnatural growth to add in the enzymes introduced that come from corn that cattle are sensitive too......they are designed to chew cud to break down ruffage through all 4 stomach compartments in which they break down the fibers from long grasses even giving them short grass liked a mowed yard to chew is hard on their natural production they require fiber that is how they stay healthy.....When cattle are fed grain, productivity is increased was the motto, but not giving them fiber disrupts physiological mechanisms such as adding harmful bacteria that they are not equipped to tolerate....I learned this after moving away from the cattle production areas such as Tx, Ok, Ks, Ne.....hunters who eat deer and free range livestock are eating much healthier beef not the cancer causing stuff of the stockyards.....

Enough of that rant on cattle the bottom line is if it wasn't produced as god intended then their is little understanding of how it will affect the body.....and of course our convenience based lifestyle has created issues but I am of the opinion that it is the unnatural foods that are causing the depression, low energy, illness are all related to the malnutrition by foods and introduction of unnatural chemicals.....the market responds to peoples habits

[PSM]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Yeah true processed foods are unnatural and our bodies respond and when we say processed everything even sugar......and imagine that scientist who have said it for years have shown evidence that cancer cells react to sugar and causes growth at an alarming rate....scientists are not able to agree on the damage processed foods cause but they know their is addictive properties and unnatural physiological responses unlike natural whole foods that are not altered genetically from their natural state......the addictive properties being added and altered reminds me of the Tobacco companies being finally called out in the 80's.

If you look at livestock I grew up working livestock and always fed cattle with feed corn a salt block and little ruffage why? they are ruminants!?.....because I was raised in the midwest around mass production stockyards this is what everyone there did and what was taught in vo-ag schools.....it is an unnatural food for a ruminant but was raised in the cattle production world where 20-100,000 head stockyards are fattening cattle for commercial slaughterhouses as feeders I worked in those as well and in the 80's we slaughtered 400 head an hour for 20 hours a day........the corn causes all sorts of diseases for these animals and unnatural growth to add in the enzymes introduced that come from corn that cattle are sensitive too......they are designed to chew cud to break down ruffage through all 4 stomach compartments in which they break down the fibers from long grasses even giving them short grass liked a mowed yard to chew is hard on their natural production they require fiber that is how they stay healthy.....When cattle are fed grain, productivity is increased was the motto, but not giving them fiber disrupts physiological mechanisms such as adding harmful bacteria that they are not equipped to tolerate....I learned this after moving away from the cattle production areas such as Tx, Ok, Ks, Ne.....hunters who eat deer and free range livestock are eating much healthier beef not the cancer causing stuff of the stockyards.....

Enough of that rant on cattle the bottom line is if it wasn't produced as god intended then their is little understanding of how it will affect the body.....and of course our convenience based lifestyle has created issues but I am of the opinion that it is the unnatural foods that are causing the depression, low energy, illness are all related to the malnutrition by foods and introduction of unnatural chemicals.....the market responds to peoples habits

We only raised 150 to 200 head a year on the ranch and held back, usually, 4 or 5 of the best of the grass fed herd for ourselves, friends, family, and butcher. The others went to auction and the feed lot. (For those that don't know, the one for the butcher was to pay for his service and storage of the frozen meat.) We had very good beef . . . every night. Sometimes we would beg for fried chicken or hot dogs.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by PSM

We only raised 150 to 200 head a year on the ranch and held back, usually, 4 or 5 of the best of the grass fed herd for ourselves, friends, family, and butcher. The others went to auction and the feed lot. (For those that don't know, the one for the butcher was to pay for his service and storage of the frozen meat.) We had very good beef . . . every night. Sometimes we would beg for fried chicken or hot dogs.

Yeah I hear you the taste of grass fed is gamier with less fat but once the taste is acquired good meat....most of the local smaller ranchers kept a few back for themselves but sent the rest of the feeders off to the stockyard to fatten up for market and sold them at whatever the market was paying when they hit their mark.....an awful lot of ranchers lost their butts when the market bottomed out and tried to hold on to their stock rather than sell them for a loss by the lb and hoped the markets turned around.....I watched a chef on T.V. talking about trying to go away from unnatural beef production though he bought high quality beef but the quality is 80% in the breeding if they are fed the same then the quality of feed etc....his problem was though he served grass fed if he eliminated the fatty cattle he would go out of business his clientele preferred the flavor of the fat in those cattle.....but grass fed is definitely coming on in society....Now we just need to keep scientist from playing with nature.....I can understand the value of fruits and vegetables completely the issue is when we buy them from a grocery store many are on the verge of not having nutrients due to the chemicals they use to kill/the enzymes to slow down the going bad decay process....I started juicing more and when I buy veggies and fruits I wait until I see them starting to go bad which in science means the enzymes are recovered and doing their job meaning the food will have all of its nutrient available. As long as the food is clean their is little issues with food poisoning but when food breaks down completely as in a mushy apple the nutrient are gone and have begun to putrify i.e. good alcohol potential......don't let food go to waste