10-01-2010, 13:03
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I am intrigued.
Wonder what ammo/component price/availability is, and would like to see more testing.
30 cal out of an AR with nothing but a barrel swap? I'm so there, although $495 for a 9" barrel does seem kinda pricey to me.
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10-01-2010, 13:13
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Originally Posted by DJ Urbanovsky
I am intrigued.
Wonder what ammo/component price/availability is, and would like to see more testing.
30 cal out of an AR with nothing but a barrel swap? I'm so there, although $495 for a 9" barrel does seem kinda pricey to me.
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MSRP and actual price are two different animals. Since the only difference between a 5.56 gun and the 300 AAC is the barrel it is only a matter of time before quality aftermarket barrels hit the street at a price point well below $495, even faster if Remington actually supports the cartridge unlike the 6.8 SPC. As it is Noveske already makes a barrel chambered in the 300 Fireball and my understanding is the 300 AAC is essentially a SAMMI approved 300 Fireball.
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10-01-2010, 13:53
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SUPERSONIC: 970/821 RPM suppressed/unsuppressed
with 300 BLK ammo using Sierra 155 grain New Palma
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Isn't this similar to the 134 year old 30-30 Winchester,,
And as mentioned, the 66 year old 7.62x39 Russian??
So far, I am not impressed..
If the future of CQB warfare is planned for a battle field in a closet,,
why not use the 44 mag in a 4 inch barrel??
AT least the 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC are a little better at "reach out and touch someone"..
Who is the congressman or senator pushing this??
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10-01-2010, 15:17
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Based one the links I posted and further reading on silencertalk.com it seems like the main purpose of this round was its impressive subsonic db levels, along with it being ballistically similar to 7.62x39, without the problems associated with adapting that round to the ar-15 platform.
Essentially I think this was to make a relatively quiet round that will work in the standard ar-15/m4 platform and still be a decent performer out of a short barrel. (I think they percieve the advantage is in adopting the whole package including their silencer, rather than just the round itself)
Agree though it seems that they just made .300 whisper a standard cartridge along with the ability to adapt it to this platform in the easiest way possible.
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10-01-2010, 15:23
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Agree though it seems that they just made .300 whisper a standard cartridge along with the ability to adapt it to this platform in the easiest way possible.
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Ding ding ding!
Sounds to me like they took JD's idea and are trying to go mainstream with it.
The .300 Whisper is a good round, and you do not need the 7.62x51 case capacity if you are going to be using subsonic rounds.
TR
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07-26-2017, 17:18
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Does anyone have any 1st-person trigger time on a 300 Blackout?
If a guy was going to get one with the intent of using it on hogs, what would be a good ammo/optic combination? Standard ammo - no plans or desire for a suppressor and subsonic ammo. Just looking for a "semi automatic 30-30"
Scope? Red dot?
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07-26-2017, 21:37
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Does anyone have any 1st-person trigger time on a 300 Blackout?
If a guy was going to get one with the intent of using it on hogs, what would be a good ammo/optic combination? Standard ammo - no plans or desire for a suppressor and subsonic ammo. Just looking for a "semi automatic 30-30"
Scope? Red dot?
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Currently have a 1x6 Vortex Strike Eagle on mine. Had an AimPoint M3; wasn't as happy with it. Supersonic hunting ammo is 110 to 130 gr. ballistic tip; Barnes, Sierra, or Nosler. Holler if you want to "try before you buy".
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07-27-2017, 04:16
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Originally Posted by fng13
Based one the links I posted and further reading on silencertalk.com it seems like the main purpose of this round was its impressive subsonic db levels, along with it being ballistically similar to 7.62x39, without the problems associated with adapting that round to the ar-15 platform.
Essentially I think this was to make a relatively quiet round that will work in the standard ar-15/m4 platform and still be a decent performer out of a short barrel. (I think they percieve the advantage is in adopting the whole package including their silencer, rather than just the round itself)
Agree though it seems that they just made .300 whisper a standard cartridge along with the ability to adapt it to this platform in the easiest way possible.
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More comparison to murky the water 
If you're not reloading, not stuck in AR platform, and not into psssshhhhh, you want to hunt with 7.62x39, Billy. Hornady SST and cheap Russian 8m3 comes to mind.
I must admit though that $499 Palmetto in .300 blackout is something special
Out of the box and smoother shooting, which is irrelevant in hunting shooting pace context
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07-27-2017, 07:18
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I must admit though that $499 Palmetto in .300 blackout
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Do you have a link to this?
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07-27-2017, 07:23
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I looked at the 7.62x39 version from the same company. The easy availability and low cost of surplus ammo is a really good selling point. A major downside is that it they are not super-reliable with M4 magazines.
I have a lower that needs a mate - I even looked (VERY briefly) at a 458-SOCOM. Upwards of 50 bucks for a 20 round box of ammo..... HA
300 Blackout is no more/less expensive than 30-30 or 7.62 NATO which is a good selling point to me. AK ammo is only "cheap" when it is the military surplus style steel case with berdan primers. Quality brass/boxer ammo for 7.62x39 costs the same as 300 Blackout.
I really really really did get pretty close to getting the 7.62x39 upper but the ammo/magazine combination pushed me over to the 300.
...now I need to find a sighting system so I don't have to shoot it like a shotgun.
I am almost certainly going to put a low power scope on the rifle - I am just not sure what I want to buy.
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07-27-2017, 07:49
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Do you have a link to this?
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Never mind, found it...out of stock. 
After reading a lot of reviews I've decided to get a .300 Blackout AR Pistol and a suppressor as home defense weapon. Not having to invest in different magazines than what I already have is nice benefit.
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07-27-2017, 07:57
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Well if haven't all ready bought the upper you should look at the 7.62x40. It is the 5.56 trimmed back to 40 mm and open up to 7.62 so it is very reliable in the AR platform.
If you handload brass is cheap.
https://www.wilsoncombat.com/7-62x40-wt-rifles/
As for scopes the Burris Fullfield II 2-7x35 is an excellent one.
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07-27-2017, 11:17
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A great advantage of the 300 is it's versatility on the reloading bench. Data and components are plentiful thanks to the readily available 308 cal bullets on the market. 110 to 265 grains to tailor to both your supersonic and suppressed needs. The brass is a bit more finicky, and good quality brass is a must. I am finding out that not all brass is equal.
I personally love running sub rounds out of a 9mm can, saves me the 12+ month wait for a 30 Cal can. Not that I'm not waiting for water to boil, but still, a good 9mm can handle subsonic 300's.
Proof your magazines though. If you are running the heavier 220 grn bullets you might find your 5.56mm magazines protest. 220 grains can challenge mag's designed for a 55 grn especially if she has and 29 of her friends with her. Fortunately mag producers are strengthening the mag springs and designing 300 AAC specific mags.
Over all, I am glad I started to play with the 300 BO/ AAC.
As for sights, you know the deal. What range are you shooting for? A simple red dot could fit the bill. I have both a TR1 and a shorty EoTech that line up perfectly with my Troy Industry Diamond head sights.
The 300 BO World is your oyster,,,,
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07-27-2017, 12:16
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Vortex, Viper, PST Gen II, 1 x 6 w/VMR-2 Reticle (MRAD). Get it off of Experticity. (Or I'll sell you my Strike Eagle reasonable so I can justify getting one myself!  ) If you don't want to spend the bucks for a LaRue or Geissele mount, check out the Warne ones; they have cool colors and can withstand the abuse of 3-gun.
doctom54 makes a good recommendation WRT the Wilson 7.62 x 40. I may go ahead and build another upper in that caliber just for the fun of it. Bad news is - you'll have to get into handloading to realize max potential for either cartridge.
Magpul just announced the release of their dedicated 300BLK mags to address issues blue02hd discusses; I'll be grabbing a few to test shortly.
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