01-21-2018, 05:55
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BREAKING: Turkey INVADES Syria – tanks and soldiers cross the border
BREAKING: Turkey INVADES Syria – tanks and soldiers cross the border
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...-united-states
"Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim reportedly said they are targeting US-backed Kurdish fighters.
Shocking pictures show dozens of tanks and armoured vehicles crossing over the border in a terrifying display of military might...."
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"...But the Syrian-Kurdish YPG militia has denied there is a full-scale invasion underway, claiming forces clashed in Afrin but Turkish soldiers were beaten back.
YPG official, Nouri Mahmoudi, said "all the Turkish military's ground attacks against Afrin have been repelled so far and they have been forced to retreat."..."
Doesn't seem to be much news interest in this - yet.
Reporter seems a little excited in this story.
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01-21-2018, 08:49
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Interesting that they are specifically going to Syria to attack US-backed fighters...
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01-21-2018, 10:50
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Interesting that they are specifically going to Syria to attack*US-backed*fighters...
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Turkey's #1 foreign policy is to stop the formation of a Kurdish state, Afrin province borders Turkey. Turks could care less who they're backed by. Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Isreal, and the U.S. are still united fighting for the same basic objective.
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01-21-2018, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Mustang Man
Turkey's #1 foreign policy is to stop the formation of a Kurdish state, Afrin province borders Turkey. Turks could care less who they're backed by. Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Isreal, and the U.S. are still united fighting for the same basic objective.
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sunnis vs. shia
Nothing new here. Only been going on for thousands of years and will continue for thousands more.
Just pray they continue to fight each other............
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01-21-2018, 12:36
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With all the anti tank guided missiles we’ve shipped over there I suspect a lot of those tanks will become fiery Turkish coffins.
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01-21-2018, 14:33
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Just pray they continue to fight each other............
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And yet their fighting has only exacerbated unprecedented Muslim migration/invasion to the West. These large migrations were not happening when the Middle East was more stable. You're a treasure trove of knowledge Team Seargent and normally agree with you but not on this. I'll pray for a stable region so they can stop migrating/invading the West. The only actor that benefits from a destabilized Middle East is Isreal.
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Wonder what and if we will do anything. Iraq and Turkey let the Kurd get rid if ISIS and after they did that and were weakened they took them out.
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Turkey's been playing a double game this entire time. From the very beggining of the Syrian conflcit, Turkey was hoping ISIS would get rid of the Kurds for them. That changed once Russia invaded Syria in September 2015, that is when and large reason ISIS has dwindled. Next thing you know, Erdogan shoots down a Russian jet two months later in November. The Turks were never truly supporting the "fight" against ISIS, just a dog and pony show. There are Kurdish accounts of the Turkish government supporting ISIS. ISIS was the best thing to happen to Turkey, they had a force to weaken out the Kurds for them. like I said Turkey's #1 foreign policy has always been to prevent a Kurdish state.
Turkey invading Syria was a likely agreement reached between Turkey and Russia. Russia gets a stabilized Syria and Turkey can rid the Kurds further.
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Smart strategy but should we allow it? they have been good allies in the area the only real one other than Israel.
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Kurds = U.S. Covert Action tool
To paraphrase Henry Kissinger "Don't confuse Covert Action for missionary work."
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01-21-2018, 15:54
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
sunnis vs. shia
Nothing new here. Only been going on for thousands of years and will continue for thousands more.
Just pray they continue to fight each other............
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My concern is that unlike the Soviet/China communist alliance split and Nixon’s related visit to China, we’re not going to see the same implosion of failed ideology with Islam.
I think it’s doomed to failure, but I don’t see adherents seeing the truth as they did with communism(although even that may be premature with western leftists wanting to recycle the same toxin in a new app).
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01-22-2018, 08:59
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Originally Posted by Flagg
My concern is that unlike the Soviet/China communist alliance split and Nixon’s related visit to China, we’re not going to see the same implosion of failed ideology with Islam.
I think it’s doomed to failure, but I don’t see adherents seeing the truth as they did with communism(although even that may be premature with western leftists wanting to recycle the same toxin in a new app).
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It's going to take millions more raped, murdered and tortured before the world views islam not as a "religion" but as a very evil ideology. Few hundred years ago we'd have viewed the pope and his minions the very same way, rape, murder and torture.
I'll be fishing.
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