Old 01-25-2006, 20:08   #61
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Longtab, I'm not quite a young Joe anymore and that post made me think, I wish I had more guys mentor me like that when I was a younger stud.

Thanks for the time that you took to put that down. I'm gonna be using that line alot!
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Old 01-25-2006, 20:35   #62
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Which one Brah? His post was full of them!


Longtab, one of the best posts I've seen on the internet.
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Old 01-25-2006, 21:03   #63
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"Might you have to _______ in combat"?
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Old 01-25-2006, 21:23   #64
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I liked the guy thing too. Wait...
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

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Old 02-04-2006, 15:03   #65
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Blackhawk anyone?

I recently purchased a Blackhawk RAPTOR for hiking, but was dissapointed in that the side pouches were specifically for radio and flares, kem-lights etc. Overall the ruck has lasted over 200 miles of hiking, and far more comfortable than the ALICE ruck. Just looking for some other experience with the Blackhawk products.


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Old 02-04-2006, 16:36   #66
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I recently purchased a Blackhawk RAPTOR for hiking, but was dissapointed in that the side pouches were specifically for radio and flares, kem-lights etc. Overall the ruck has lasted over 200 miles of hiking, and far more comfortable than the ALICE ruck. Just looking for some other experience with the Blackhawk products.

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Ropeadope, you have already been advised to familiarize yourself with the search button.

Look for "Blackhawk", there should be plenty of experience for you to peruse.

If you are trying to set a record for post count on your first day, it is about to end badly for you.

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Old 02-04-2006, 18:50   #67
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Fire for effect!

Ropeadope,

7 posts today and 2 yesterday! I personally would get my head down ASAP, because TS is shortly going to be firing for effect.

My .02 mate.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:19   #68
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I swear by the ALICE. Call me old school.
Best thing is the tactical taylor additions.

Two additions to the ALICE that are well worth the money:

1. the extended closing sewn into the top of the main ruck (to keep stuff from falling out).

2. The enlarged top flap....which is where I kept the things I needed quick access to in the dark (ranger handbook, black watch cap, etc)


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I agree with Warrior Mentor, and many other on this Tread.

I would tell new Studs going through the SFQC. If your going to spend some money.. go down to General Jackson, buy a Alice and get it modified by Willie.

One thing I would say to buy is the Extreme Top Lid (XTL) by Kifaru in lieu of the modified ruck top flap that most places do. You have to added some new tabs on your Ruck, but this thing is the heat for top room.

http://www.kifaru.net/MG_XTL.htm

For the missions we are asked to perform these days, you need to be light and self contained and NO EXPENSE SHOULD BE SPARED to see that objective met. Having two packs, your team day pack plus your Mod Alice is the way to go.

I bought an Alice back in 1992, fixed it at a show repair at NTC in 1994, then a repair during the SFQC by Willie. I added a new side pocket in 2003. Cost me about 200.00 back in 1992. Do the math, money well spent.

The SPARES Ruck, Sucks.. 11-13 Lbs empty.. WTF was the Army or G8 think when they BOIP that system. Civilian that hasn’t been under the weight, just behind a desk for 10 years. BS
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Old 08-28-2006, 18:48   #69
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MtnGoat wrote:

I would tell new Studs going through the SFQC. If your going to spend some money.. go down to General Jackson, buy a Alice and get it modified by Willie.



Amen to that! I had my ALICE modified by Willie years ago and it was the best money I ever spent. I had the following done:

1. All straps converted to quick release (BSR-1A clips)

2. Claymore pouch added over the 3 small snap pockets top rear of pack.

3. Compression bag added on the botton for sleeping gear/poncho ect.

5. Left side pcket running entire length of bag, 3" x 19" 6", zipper top. Fits Pocket Hotel and hydration bladder.

6. Right side pocket 3" x 11" x 6", zipper top.

7. 2 qt canteen straps on right side under new pocket.

With the proper stuff sacks (colored coded) I can find anything relatively quick inside. I still use my Early Winters (remeber them?) stuff sacks fro my BT days.

The reason I settled on ALICE was the fact that I can carry a butt pack on my pistol belt and M-1956 LBE suspenders (rigged with 550 cord, cut the metal buckles off) comfortably. The butt pack gives you a small day pack and it's easy to rig a 60oz or 100oz hydration pack on the back of the suspenders as well. I always felt that you need an e&e kit in you butpack so if you coudn't get back to your main ruck you can survive.
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:26   #70
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I used a modified ALICE for many years, I carried it on a modified jungle ruck frame. Good gear if the only thing you can use has to be issue. Or at least, have originally been issued.

Civilian rucks generally do not have the external pockets needed for military use. You have to be able to get to food, ammo, batteries, rain gear, Claymores, IVs, antennas, etc. quickly at all times. Your average backpacker does not have that need.

Just got a set of the long side pockets for my Kifaru Navigator.

Great accessory, makes for easy access to frequently needed items like rain gear, food, etc.

The Kifaru packs are bulletproof, superbly designed and constructed, carry almost like they are part of you.

No, you may not use them at SFAS or in the SFQC.

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Old 08-31-2006, 18:19   #71
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I agree with Warrior Mentor, and many other on this Tread.



One thing I would say to buy is the Extreme Top Lid (XTL) by Kifaru in lieu of the modified ruck top flap that most places do. You have to added some new tabs on your Ruck, but this thing is the heat for top room.

http://www.kifaru.net/MG_XTL.htm
MtnGoat,

Thanks for the tip on the XTL. I ordered one. What's the best way to mod an ALICE to use it? Do you keep the existing flap or is it removed/moded? Where did you add clips?
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Old 08-31-2006, 20:12   #72
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MtnGoat,

Thanks for the tip on the XTL. I ordered one. What's the best way to mod an ALICE to use it? Do you keep the existing flap or is it removed/moded? Where did you add clips?

That does look sharp! I'd be interested in how to use that with a large ALICE, too.
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Old 09-08-2006, 22:22   #73
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Hey guys, for those of you wondering about how to use one of our XTL's on your ALICE packs, here's a link to a thread on our message board with some pics I took of an XTL on an ALICE. I also explain how I did it. Hope this might help you guys that were interested in this setup.

http://forums.kifaru.net/ubb/ultimat...=001594#000000

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Old 09-08-2006, 22:43   #74
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Nice looking set-up, Mel.

Thanks for the picture show!

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Old 09-08-2006, 23:55   #75
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[QUOTE]go down to General Jackson[QUOTE]

Buy on line unless you want throw money away. Lots of sewing shops cheaper also. Or drive over to a Gear maker. There are plenty in Fay. Search on here. Or ask around. Some of the best in Fay work out of their Garage. Need it fast go with a big on line Company? Has the Army officially change from the old Alice from as late as 2001?
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