obama says "free college"

Originally Posted by Dusty

WCH: What do you think about the idea?

I like the idea...but lack enough details to say I'm for or against "the plan".

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by WCH

I like the idea...but lack enough details to say I'm for or against "the plan".

Well, if a kid goes to Jr. College, he's more than likely just about voting age. Think maybe he's more likely to vote for the candidate who's in the party that gave him free college?

Pretty sure that's the "plan", WCH.

Originally Posted by Dusty

Well, if a kid goes to Jr. College, he's more than likely just about voting age. Think maybe he's more likely to vote for the candidate who's in the party that gave him free college?

Pretty sure that's the "plan", WCH.

Well then, I'd say that would be better than voting for the candidate who's agenda is making him or her an indentured servant of the financial industry.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by WCH

Well then, I'd say that would be better than voting for the candidate who's agenda is making him or her an indentured servant of the financial industry.

I'd agree, but I don't smoke reefer all day and night.

[x SF med]

Originally Posted by Dusty

"IF you like your money you can keep it."

Brother, it's more like....

If you like MY money, the government will give it to you if you vote for socialist totalitarianism and give up your Constitutionally protected rights....

[cbtengr]

I have no idea as to why anyone would be opposed to this or for that matter anything else from the government that is free. IT's GOVERNMENT MONEY paying for all this. It's not like they are using our money.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by WCH

an indentured servant of the financial industry.

If government would get out of the way, the costs would drop. Harvard's current endowment is over 36 BILLION dollars. Every student, forever, could have a full scholarship and hardly make a dent in it.

Pat

Originally Posted by Dusty

I'd agree, but I don't smoke reefer all day and night.

Sticking to moonshine these days, eh!

Originally Posted by PSM

If government would get out of the way, the costs would drop. Harvard's current endowment is over 36 BILLION dollars. Every student, forever, could have a full scholarship and hardly make a dent in it.

Pat

I know quite a few students who were awarded free rides there.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by WCH

Sticking to moonshine these days, eh!

lol I could be drunker'n Cooter Brown and smell that "free college" trap from the next holler over.

I don't play banjo.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

The history of government programs shows that generally-speaking, whatever the government says it will cost, it will end up costing exponentially more. It also may well end up doing what government funding of four year college has done, which is to dilute the value of such education by causing a flood of people into it. Community college is an expense just like buying a home, buying a car, etc...and we couldn't have government buying everyone a free home or a free car.

It also leads more and more towards a mindset of the general public that the government is supposed to handhold everyone IMO.

I'm so proud of you I could bust.

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

The history of government programs shows that generally-speaking, whatever the government says it will cost, it will end up costing exponentially more. It also may well end up doing what government funding of four year college has done, which is to dilute the value of such education by causing a flood of people into it. Community college is an expense just like buying a home, buying a car, etc...and we couldn't have government buying everyone a free home or a free car.

It also leads more and more towards a mindset of the general public that the government is supposed to handhold everyone IMO.

A better educated population will lead to more people able to afford owning their own homes, creating jobs in the construction industry, thus increasing the tax base.

Kiddo...life experience will show you that whatever you think it will cost, will end up costing exponentially more...it's not a concept exclusive to government.

I entered college over 50 years ago, and have yet to see it's value diluted.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by WCH

Community college here in Tampa...tuition $104.39/CHr, or $6263.40 for a degree..60 hrs....$3800 AVERAGE a year is not pipe dream.

That's nice for Tampa, but not everyone lives in Tampa.

Here's a few sites for a few of the local C.C.'s here in the Denver Metro area ....

http://www.arapahoe.edu/tuition-and-...ition-and-fees

http://coloradomtn.edu/admissions/tuition_costs/

http://www.ppcc.edu/paying-for-college/tuition-fees/

http://www.ccaurora.edu/getting-star...tuition-tables

http://www.collegeview.com/schools/c...denver/tuition

http://www.rrcc.edu/tuition

That last link I posted is the CC I attended, and as you see "... RRCC was ranked on the 2014 Affordable Colleges Online List?"

$3,800.00 per academic year would NOT have covered the extra added fees the school "tacked" on. Even if the "Free Barry Phone" ... errrrr .... "Free Barry Education" initiative were to come to pass, and cover ONLY the credit hours per student sign up, they (the student) still would not be able to afford the extra added fees associated with today's higher education.

I'm sticking to my guns and calling it a pipe dream.

[pcfixer]

'free college' Yep, for who?

http://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

Current Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt
01/08/2015 12,981,962,678,994.62 5,102,855,241,830.91 84,817,920,825.53

Originally Posted by Sdiver

That's nice for Tampa, but not everyone lives in Tampa.

Here's a few sites for a few of the local C.C.'s here in the Denver Metro area ....

http://www.arapahoe.edu/tuition-and-...ition-and-fees

http://coloradomtn.edu/admissions/tuition_costs/

http://www.ppcc.edu/paying-for-college/tuition-fees/

http://www.ccaurora.edu/getting-star...tuition-tables

http://www.collegeview.com/schools/c...denver/tuition

http://www.rrcc.edu/tuition

That last link I posted is the CC I attended, and as you see "... RRCC was ranked on the 2014 Affordable Colleges Online List?"

$3,800.00 per academic year would NOT have covered the extra added fees the school "tacked" on. Even if the "Free Barry Phone" ... errrrr .... "Free Barry Education" initiative were to come to pass, and cover ONLY the credit hours per student sign up, they (the student) still would not be able to afford the extra added fees associated with today's higher education.

I'm sticking to my guns and calling it a pipe dream.

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Two years of community college yet you don't seem to understand the meaning of AVERAGE.

BTW, according to your last link RRCC's tuition and fees for 30 hrs is less than $300 more than the $3800 AVERAGE. How hard is it to earn $279/year.