Jordanian Kills Sister in Honor Killing

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Just posted today...how timely...

http://business2.maktoob.com/2009000...ng/Article.htm

News Crime Saudi women changes plea to avoid stoning
Jul 29, 2009

A woman accused of adultery in Abu Dhabi changed her guilty plea after a court judge warned her confession carried a sentence of death by stoning under sharia law, UAE daily the National reported on Monday.

The case against the Saudi woman, referred to only as R.M., was brought by her father at Abu Dhabi's Criminal Court of First Instance, the newspaper said.

"You have the right to deny," the judge was quoted as saying, following woman's admission. "The Prophet urged people towards denial in these cases."

Married and divorced men and women who commit adultery face the death penalty by stoning under sharia law. Under the same law, premarital sex is punishable by 100 lashes.

Four reliable witnesses must testify that adultery took place in order to convict a person that denies the charge. *

The woman's co-defendant, an Emirati man, referred to only as S.M., faces the same charges. He was not in court.

A verdict will be announced on Tuesday.
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* Why are 4 witnesses required? It's the LAW.

See attached.

Blu Falcon,

As a free woman living in the U.S., I cannot possibly imagine what those under Sharia law must endure, but, last I checked, all on this planet are human beings! And from what I have read over the years about this disgusting practice is that it IS practiced by Islamics, worldwide, as Warrior-Mentor has just pointed out.

The argument you made about "knowing better" has backfired on me. No. I know the facts.

The Islamic Religon practicing this Sharia Law can kiss my American A**!

JMVHO.

Holly

[Saoirse]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

Religion had absolutely nothing to do with this. And true Islam does not condone this sort of thing. You should know better than that.

Oh really? What version of the religion are you practicing? Or are you an apologist for that "religion"? The enlightened and informed infidel who was spoon fed information in a liberal college classroom, perhap?

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

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Religion had EVERYTHING to do with this. it's the LAW.

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Don't tell us this isn't TRUE Islam.

The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's
beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a
time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from
physical and/or mental injury." A one-word translation would be
"Dissimulation." [1]

"Nine tenths of religion is taqiyyah (dissimulation), hence one who does not dissimulate has no religion." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.110) [3]

Amen, WM, Amen!

Echoes:

Blu Falcon,

As a free woman living in the U.S., I cannot possibly imagine what those under Sharia law must endure, but, last I checked, all on this planet are human beings! And from what I have read over the years about this disgusting practice is that it IS practiced by Islamics, worldwide, as Warrior-Mentor has just pointed out.

The argument you made about "knowing better" has backfired on me. No. I know the facts, as any sane woman in America today knows about their right against persecution, from any who would do them harm.

The Islamic Religon practicing this Sharia Law can kiss my American A**!

JMVHO.

Holly

Free woman now...if they had their druthers, that won't be for long. The apologists and spinelss bimbos in our government and society will continue to roll over for them until NONE of us have any freedoms, let alone the American Woman!

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Saoirse

Echoes:

Free woman now...if they had their druthers, that won't be for long. The apologists and spinelss bimbos in our government and society will continue to roll over for them until NONE of us have any freedoms, let alone the American Woman!

Saoirse,

Agree! "Spineless bimbos" is to kind of a word for them, but since we are in public, it suits very well, IMHO!

Am not a feminist, or womans movement-type, but I think any intelligent female can digest this thinly veiled Sharia law for what it is...complete and utter disreguard for human life, based on the fact that we have different "parts!"

This Jordanian that killed his sister is a coward IMHO, and can only hope that Americans wake up and realize what is lurking at our doorstep...Islam, religion of peace, my a**!

Holly

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Blu Falcon:

Religion had EVERYTHING to do with this. it's the LAW.

Read the attachment and deny that it is ISLAMIC LAW.

If you'd like, I can include proof that this is a certified true translation from:
- Imam of the Mosque of Darwish Pasha (Syria)
- Mufti of the Jordanian Armed Forces (Jordan)
- President of the International Institute of Islamic Thought and Member of the Islamic Fiqh Academy at Jedda
- General Director of Research, Writing and Translation of the al-Azhar Islamic Research Academy

Don't tell us this isn't TRUE Islam.

Either you don't know - or you are practicing al-taqiyya (also spelled Taqiyya [2] and taqiyyah [3])

Either way - we're not buying what you're selling.

The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's
beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a
time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from
physical and/or mental injury." A one-word translation would be
"Dissimulation." [1]

"Nine tenths of religion is taqiyyah (dissimulation), hence one who does not dissimulate has no religion." (Al-Kafi vol.9 p.110) [3]
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[1] http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html

[2] http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Ta...-for-Allah.htm

[3] http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/shia_taqayyah.htm

[Basenshukai]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

Religion had absolutely nothing to do with this. And true Islam does not condone this sort of thing. You should know better than that.

Right, and true socialism is extremely compatible with the real world. When I start to see the same "outrage" about this - from Muslims everywhere - as I saw about cartoons of the Muslim prophet Mohamed, then I might really change my mind. Until then, the timid and nearly non-existent responses on things such as this translate into tacit approval.

[Richard]

Such abhorrant behavior should be exposed and declared unacceptable by all - no matter the specific sectarian guise under which it is cloaked by those who attempt to justify its nature.

Richard's $.02

[Pete]

Woman who wed without permission killed in Jordan

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...47-401,00.html

What can ya' say.

And down at the bottom of the story is another one killed.

".....Earlier this week, a man was charged with murder for shooting his niece, who had been raped......"

Remember - all cultures are equal.

[Richard]

From UN Population Fund reports.

"Honour" Killings

Throughout the world, perhaps as many as 5,000 women and girls a year are murdered by members of their own families, many of them for the "dishonour" of having been raped, often as not by a member of their own extended family.

Many forms of communally sanctioned violence against women, such as "honour" killings, are associated with the community's or the family's demand for sexual chastity and virginity. Perpetrators of such wanton acts often receive light sentences or are excused by the courts entirely because defence of the family's honour is treated as a mitigating circumstance.

"Honour" killings are on the rise worldwide, according to Asma Jahangir, the United Nations special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary and arbitrary executions. Ms. Jahangir is working closely with United Nations special investigators on violence against women and on the independence of judges and lawyers to address the issue.

"The perpetrators of these crimes are mostly male family members of the murdered women, who go unpunished or receive reduced sentences on the justification of having murdered to defend their misconceived notions of 'family honour,'" Jahangir wrote in her 2000 annual report to the Commission on Human Rights.32 Such killings have been reported in Bangladesh, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan, Sweden, Turkey, Uganda and the United Kingdom, according to the report.

On the order of clerics, an 18-year-old woman was flogged to death in Batsail, Bangladesh, for "immoral" behaviour, according to the report. In Egypt, a father paraded his daughter's severed head through the streets shouting, "I avenged my honour."

The report says that "honour" killings tend to be more prevalent in, but are not limited to, countries with a majority Muslim population. It adds, however, that Islamic leaders have condemned the practice and say it has no religious basis.

http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2000/english/ch03.html

UNPFA is at http://www.unfpa.org/public/

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02

[blue02hd]

Murder is murder.

Beating your face into a prayer rug five times a day doesn't change that one bit.

Confession won't clense that.

Aliens cannot travel back in time and make it better. (Sorry Tom Cruise)

[Warrior-Mentor]

Is this Girl Scared shitless or what?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027213.php

This isn't an act.

[Books]

I love religion. It imbues people with such a great capacity for excellent life decisions, such compassion and tolerance. It really brings out the best in people, you know, like murder and intellectual slavery.

Poor kid. Hope she manages to keep her head, literally and figuratively, through this.

[Richard]

Is this Girl Scared shitless or what?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027213.php

Update:

A Florida Culture-War Circus Over Rifqa Bary
Tim Padgett, Time, 24 Aug 2009

Florida has a knack for turning family dysfunction into national spectacle. Ten years ago it gave us the Elian Gonzalez mess; five years later came the Terri Schiavo debacle. Now we have a new domestic dispute that threatens to become another culture-war circus, complete with a clash-of-religions angle to boot: the battle for Rifqa Bary, a 17-year-old girl from Columbus, Ohio, who ran away to an Evangelical church in Orlando, Fla., because, she claims, her Sri Lankan Muslim family has threatened to kill her for recently converting to Christianity.

The saga began in mid-July when Rifqa, after a dispute with her parents, bolted from her home and rode a bus to Orlando. There she took refuge with the Rev. Blake Lorenz, the pastor of a conservative Christian congregation, the Global Revolution Church, and his wife Beverly, whom the cheerleader and honor student had met on Facebook. Almost three weeks later, on Aug. 6, the Lorenzes finally let authorities and Rifqa's frantic parents know the girl was with them. Then, a few days later, Rifqa dropped a bombshell to an Orlando television station: she had run away, she claimed, because her family, angry about her conversion to Christianity, had "threatened to kill me."

Wearing a white dress and a silver cross, her dark hair often falling over her scared eyes, the small and slender Rifqa insisted in the TV interview (now on YouTube) that her father Mohamed Bary, a Columbus jeweler, "said he would kill me or send me back to Sri Lanka," where she said "they have asylums where they put people like me." She said her death would be a Muslim "honor killing," the kind of murder that women in deeply conservative Muslim societies are sometimes victims of when they're deemed to have shamed their families. (The U.N. Population Fund estimates that there are as many as 5,000 worldwide honor killings every year.) Rifqa said that her father, upon discovering her Facebook profile and its declarations of her Christian faith, told her, "If you have this Jesus in your heart, you're dead to me, you're not my daughter." She added, almost hysterically, "They have to kill me ... I want to worship Jesus freely. I don't want to die!"

It's a serious charge that any law-enforcement or social-services official would have to look into, particularly since there have in fact been some extremely rare instances of honor killings in the U.S. Most recently two Dallas-area sisters were murdered last year, allegedly by their Egyptian-born Muslim father, who relatives say was enraged that his daughters, 18 and 17 years old, were dating non-Muslim boys. (The father is still at large and is believed to have fled the country.) But Mohamed Bary and his wife Aysha adamantly insist it is "completely false" that they ever threatened to kill Rifqa over her conversion. "We love her; we want her back. She is free to practice her religion, whatever she believes in. That's O.K.," Mohamed told the Associated Press last week.

Columbus police tell TIME they're watching the case closely and are in contact with the courts and social-services agencies in Ohio and Florida; so far they have found no evidence or other information to support Rifqa's accusation. Craig McCarthy, one of two Orlando attorneys appointed to represent the Barys in Florida, says that while they may have been dismayed at first by Rifqa's conversion, as devout parents of any faith would be, they are hardly the kind of fundamentalist Muslims who would declare a medieval fatwa, or death sentence, on their daughter. "There is a vast, vast difference between not being pleased that your child has not chosen your faith and wanting to kill your child," says McCarthy. "This is a family with Westernized kids. Their daughter is a cheerleader."

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...918228,00.html

[blacksmoke]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Is this Girl Scared shitless or what?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027213.php

This isn't an act.

Rumor has it that the parents went on Arab television claiming she ran away with a boy she met on facebook. I know someone, who knows someone, that knows her. She spent a lot of time at prayer groups. She's scared to death. Many people in Central OH are praying for her safety.
Blu Falcon, I think you aren't telling the whole story.

[SF-TX]

Commentary in today's Washington Times about Riqfa Bary:

Thursday, August 27, 2009
'Apostate' girl's father

Pamela Geller

Rifqa Bary, the Ohio girl who converted from Islam to Christianity and fled from her family in fear for her life, prevailed.

She will not be sent back to her father who threatened her life. But she got no help from the mainstream media. Either they didn't report her story or printed half-truths and deceptions to whitewash Islam.

The media demonized Christianity ("brainwashed by a cult") while inaccurately reporting the facts to avoid reporting about the violent ideology of Islam. They have become as depraved as the murderers for whom they cover. In doing so, the mainstream media have missed a lot that is crucial to Rifqa's story.

Rifqa's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, signed affidavits declaring themselves indigent. That's why the Florida court appointed a lawyer for the father and a lawyer for the mother. Both their lawyers are being paid by the taxpayers of Florida. Worse still, Aysha and Mohamed Bary's lawyer asked the court for more money at Rifqa's custody hearing last Friday, so that they could wage a campaign to get Rifqa back home -- a campaign involving depositions, legal documents, filings, etc.

Yet in a Dun and Bradstreet report filed by Mr. Bary himself for his business, Bary Gems, he states his business does $237,561 yearly. Mrs. Bary makes high-end bridal gowns (that income may be off the books, but she works every day). It would appear she works for Custom Bridal Veil -- a company owned by a Risana Bary, who works with Mr. Bary at Bary Gems. Risana is apparently Mohamed's wife -- but why is she listed under different names in different places? The questions regarding their honesty are inevitable.

Bary Gems offers some high-ticket items. You can get a genuine blue sapphire for a mere $2,900. And if Mr. Bary dissolved the business in early July, where are the proceeds? Where is the inventory? The Barys owned a gem import business. If they liquidated, they must have had some inventory or orders or cash on hand.

The Barys live in a very affluent neighborhood in Westerville, Ohio, in a house they rent. They're not buying because pious Muslims aren't supposed to take on mortgages -- that would involve usury, and is forbidden in the Koran.

Things began to disintegrate at home fairly rapidly once the parents were aware that Rifqa had converted to Christianity. Her parents threatened her, but she never left Christianity.

In mid-July her mother went through Rifqa's private things and found her journal. It was then revealed to her mother that Rifqa was a practicing Christian. Mrs. Bary called her husband and alerted him that Rifqa was still practicing Christianity in secret.

Mr. Bary cut his business trip short to return home immediately while Mrs. Bary packed the family's bags to go back to Sri Lanka. Whether Rifqa would have been honor murdered before or after they returned to Sri Lanka is known only to the Barys.

It was very clear that Rifqa's father planned to flee the country with his threatened daughter. According to very recent documentation, Mr. Bary dissolved his business on July 29 -- after Rifqa ran for her life (fearing an honor killing for her apostasy) and was discovered in Florida.

This was not an insignificant business, with annual sales of $237,561. That's a lot to give up. So why did Mr. Bary dissolve his business so suddenly? He obviously did not expect Rifqa to prevail in Florida court. Like all the pundits, he expected Rifqa would have to go back to Ohio.

Mr. and Mrs. Bary signed papers in Ohio with Franklin County Children Services, saying they would be happy if she were brought back to the state and placed in a foster home for at least 30 days. They just wanted to get her back in Ohio and out of Florida and Floridian interference.

Thirty days in foster care in Ohio (and what good does that do?) and then they wing her to Sri Lanka. Rifka said it herself: "In 150 generations of my family, no one has known Jesus. I am the first one. Imagine the honor in killing me. There is great honor in that. Because if they love Allah more than me, they have to do it. It's in the Koran. ... They have to do this. They just have to. Either they do that or they send me back to Sri Lanka. There's an asylum there where they put people like me, like, think I'm crazy."

Mr. Bary began the process of dissolving his business in early July when it became increasingly clear that Rifqa was a true convert to Christianity. At that time, he waved her laptop at her and said, "You are dead to me. You are not my daughter." He told her: "I will kill you."

His sudden dissolving of his business indicates he was deadly serious. But you won't learn them from the mainstream media. For them, and for the almost-as-clueless courts, he is "indigent."

Pamela Geller is the editor and publisher of the Atlas Shrugs Web site and former associate publisher of the New York Observer.

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2009/a...-girls-father/

[SF-TX]

Death sentence? The FDLE Report

Center for Security Policy, Newsmax | Sep 15, 2009
By Frank Gaffney, Jr.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is supposed to be in the business of saving lives. Yet, a just-released report by FDLE investigators may prove to be a death sentence.

At risk is the life of Rifqa Bary, the seventeen-year-old girl who fled to Florida in July to escape her family and the virulent Muslim community near Columbus, Ohio of which they have been a part since immigrating from Sri Lanka. Rifqa says that her father had threatened to kill when he discovered that she had secretly converted to Christianity several years ago. That would make her, according to the comprehensive theo-political-legal program authoritative Islam calls Shariah, guilty of "apostasy" - a capital offense.

For Shariah-adherent Muslims, such an offense is a stain on the family's honor and it often falls to fathers or brothers to remove it by the execution of the offender. It is this possibility that the FDLE was asked by a juvenile court judge in Florida to assess before he ruled on the motions filed by Ms. Bary's parents to compel her return to Ohio.

Unfortunately, the Florida investigators failed to perform their assignment. They found "no conclusive reports of threats" against Rifqa Bary. At best, their report is incomplete. At worst, it is misleading, possibly fatally so.

The FDLE concluded that "our investigation has provided no clear evidence of criminal activity in other states [i.e., Ohio] which may be supportive of [Ms. Bary's] allegations." This finding could only have been reached by a lack of due-diligence. For example, the investigators evidently failed to pursue the following leads:

* A Rifqa Bary Facebook site with 123 members that claims as its mission "we must kill her" was not considered evidence of potential criminal activity.

* The Shariah-adherent Muslim community near Columbus and its toxic Noor Islamic Cultural Center were not investigated. The FDLE report says that "an investigation into any person, religious or social organization without a specific criminal predicate in inappropriate." This is all the more stunning given that Rifqa's attorney, John Stemberger, has introduced into evidence a 35-page document revealing the mosque's extensive ties to jihadism and terrorism.

* The FDLE did not interview many of the friends Rifqa had identified who had knowledge of the abuse to which she had long been subjected at the hands of family members. The FDLE evidently spoke to just three individuals from the list and dispensed with the rest.

* There was nothing remotely like a rigorous effort to establish the degree to which Shariah requires its adherents to murder apostates like Rifqa Bary or the extent to which honor killings have been occurring in Western states - including, of late, the U.S. - to carry out this obligation.

Without such relevant information, the presiding Juvenile Court judge, Daniel Dawson, is - to put it mildly - clearly at an extreme disadvantage in deciding whether Ms. Bary can safely be sent back to her family and/or community.

The extent to which this denial of material facts is not just an omission but dereliction of duty on the part of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is suggested by the outrageous double-standard its investigators reportedly applied as they conducted interviews with the prospective victim and her family.

My Pet Jawa, a blog that has been doggedly and carefully following the Rifqa Bary case, broke the story that the FDLE report included the following admission:

FDLE/DCF Investigators were accompanied to the Bary residence by Sgt. John Hurst of the Columbus P.D. Child Abuse Squad. The residence is located in an apartment complex. Mr. Babak Darvish, Executive Director of the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Columbus and Mr. Romin Iqbal, Staff Attorney for CAIR OHIO were present. Investigators interviewed Mr. Bary in a non-custodial setting. (Emphasis added.)

As My Pet Jawa observed:

What makes this decision by FDLE and the Florida Dept of Children and Families to allow CAIR - who is not a party to the legal dispute and has not notified the court that they are representing the Barys in any legal capacity - [reprehensible] is that FDLE/DCF conducted a three and a half hour interrogation of Rifqa, the victim in this case, without her attorney and guardian ad litem being present. (Emphasis in the original.)

The inclusion of CAIR representatives in such a proceeding would be all the more outrageous in light of the fact that CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood-associated organization. The Brotherhood has the explicit goal of "destroying Western civilization from within" and making America into a Shariah-adherent Islamic nation. CAIR was also an unindicted co-conspirator in a case involving material support for the terrorist organization Hamas.

Taken together, the FDLE's conduct suggests that its personnel deliberately conducted an investigation that is both incomplete and misleading. We can only speculate as to why. But the possibility that Governor Charlie Crist would like this hot potato transferred to Ohio rather than have it complicate his run for the Senate may be a contributing factor.

What is clear is this: If the minor in question were fleeing parents who she believed wanted to kill her for reasons other than Islam's Shariah, it is hard to imagine that the system in Florida ostensibly charged with protecting such children would even contemplate restoring parental custody.

Should such a restoration take place in this case, it will be further evidence that America is succumbing to the stealth jihad that is inexorably insinuating that seditious Islamic program into our society, in Florida and elsewhere across this country. In that event, the result of failing to fight the Islamists in this case may prove to be not just a death sentence for Rifqa Bary. It could turn out as well to be an important milestone in the submission of all Americans to the program that explicitly seeks to replace our Constitution and the liberties it enshrines with the brutal and repressive program known as Shariah.



Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. is President of the Center for Security Policy and host of the nationally syndicated program Secure Freedom Radio.

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