07-31-2013, 14:01
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British Socialism going strong.....
Socialism doesn't believe in "Freedom of Speech" 
Arrest over mosque blast tattoo seen at Birmingham EDL rally
A man photographed at an English Defence League rally with a tattoo on his ribs of a mosque being blown up has been arrested on suspicion of stirring up racial hatred.
The 39-year-old man from South Shields, South Tyneside, was arrested following the protest in Birmingham on 20 July.
A man was pictured at the rally with a tattoo of a mosque with the word "boom!" on it.
Officers said the arrested man had since been released on bail.
He was arrested by Northumbria Police on Friday on behalf of West Midlands Police.
The force made a total of 20 arrests following the rally - and counter-protest - off Birmingham's Broad Street earlier this month.
Police said up to 2,000 people gathered at two locations in the city centre.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23517893
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08-15-2013, 15:32
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I'm not sure what side is worse, communism/socialism or fascism, both have murdered tens of millions......
When socialism (a step away from communism) rears it's ugly head fascism is not far behind.
A tattoo is free speech, and there's a difference between racial hatred and religious hatred...... islam is not tolerant of any religion but islam, and you can insult every religion except islam. Sorry, I ain't buying it, islam is fascism and racism balled up in a "religion". That guy tattoo is against islam, not a race.
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08-15-2013, 15:43
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That's the big problem for the UK, the powers that be can't see the difference between race and religion. It's true both sides need a good slap and sending to bed , it's a shame it's not dealt with.
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08-15-2013, 18:16
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That's the big problem for the UK, the powers that be can't see the difference between race and religion. It's true both sides need a good slap and sending to bed , it's a shame it's not dealt with.
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Are you kidding me? The Brits civillized the world, now they're arresting their own citizens for free speech contained in a tattoo, and these are your responses? Don't you know your own country's history? Haven't you read the Magna Carta?
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08-15-2013, 19:09
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When it comes to the Magna Carta, history neglects to mention what King John did (or tried to do) to the signers - and everyone else he could get his hands on who thought a piece of parchment to be a viable constraint on unbridled tyranny. It wasn't until after John's death that the myth we accept as the Magna Carta gained stature - at the point of a sword in the hands of an armed gentry who seized upon the weakness of a 10 year old king and the complicity of a Roman Pope. Without willing arms to enforce its provisions, the Magna Carta would have been a forgotten footnote in English history. Even then its provisions generally only applied for the gentry. Add that throughout history English kings continued to view it much as our current administration views our own Constitution - an impediment to the natural exercise of their "divine rights". The takeaway from this brief lesson? - The coin paid to enforce words on parchment is blood; tyrants will not be stopped with anything less dear.
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08-15-2013, 19:26
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I'm not sure what side is worse, communism/socialism or fascism, both have murdered tens of millions......
When socialism (a step away from communism) rears it's ugly head fascism is not far behind.
A tattoo is free speech, and there's a difference between racial hatred and religious hatred...... islam is not tolerant of any religion but islam, and you can insult every religion except islam. Sorry, I ain't buying it, islam is fascism and racism balled up in a "religion". That guy tattoo is against islam, not a race.
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08-15-2013, 19:28
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When it comes to the Magna Carta, history neglects to mention what King John did (or tried to do) to the signers - and everyone else he could get his hands on who thought a piece of parchment to be a viable constraint on unbridled tyranny. It wasn't until after John's death that the myth we accept as the Magna Carta gained stature - at the point of a sword in the hands of an armed gentry who seized upon the weakness of a 10 year old king and the complicity of a Roman Pope. Without willing arms to enforce its provisions, the Magna Carta would have been a forgotten footnote in English history. Even then its provisions generally only applied for the gentry. Add that throughout history English kings continued to view it much as our current administration views our own Constitution - an impediment to the natural exercise of their "divine rights". The takeaway from this brief lesson? - The coin paid to enforce words on parchment is blood; tyrants will not be stopped with anything less dear.
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Well said.
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08-15-2013, 19:42
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
When it comes to the Magna Carta, history neglects to mention what King John did (or tried to do) to the signers - and everyone else he could get his hands on who thought a piece of parchment to be a viable constraint on unbridled tyranny. It wasn't until after John's death that the myth we accept as the Magna Carta gained stature - at the point of a sword in the hands of an armed gentry who seized upon the weakness of a 10 year old king and the complicity of a Roman Pope. Without willing arms to enforce its provisions, the Magna Carta would have been a forgotten footnote in English history. Even then its provisions generally only applied for the gentry. Add that throughout history English kings continued to view it much as our current administration views our own Constitution - an impediment to the natural exercise of their "divine rights". The takeaway from this brief lesson? - The coin paid to enforce words on parchment is blood; tyrants will not be stopped with anything less dear.
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Amen.
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08-16-2013, 03:05
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Originally Posted by craigepo
Are you kidding me? The Brits civillized the world, now they're arresting their own citizens for free speech contained in a tattoo, and these are your responses? Don't you know your own country's history? Haven't you read the Magna Carta?
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I wouldn't say we civilised the world, more along the lines of followed maps from other nations, china being one, invaded countries, removed what was required, then either got complacent and removed by uprisings or left due to money. The protesters tattoo is exactly the same, but a modern adaptation of the swastika worn by the UK National Front, who the EDL have took over from. Our history is littered with the organisations, but only recently, since 9/11, with radical Islam.
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