Old 09-01-2017, 20:30   #841
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The DFW area was in full scale panic mode yesterday, with Google phone alerts telling people to get gas, along with news reports showing 5 lanes x 15 deep at Costco. There were runs on food too. Some stations got replenished overnight but most I saw today still had no gas. Some people didn't come into work today because they had no gas.
I think it's induced panic. North Texas fuel comes from Ponca City, OK. Huston's product is pipelined to SE US and east coast. IIRC, most of Texas refined fuels comes from OK.

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Old 09-23-2017, 21:52   #842
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http://www.itstactical.com/intellico...ricane-harvey/
came across a good AAR for not only responder but those awaiting rescue. I went to Alabama once and twice to New Orleans after Katrina. I wished I had read this AAR

Also from the same site is preparedness if caught in a mob
http://www.itstactical.com/intellico...rban-uprising/
Move at right angles to the mob sounds like a logical tips.
Anyone here who've been caught (prepared or unprepared) in the midst of an urban uprising care to share their lesson learned?

I lived through a city/province wide ethnic cleansing riot in the 90's. As ignorant as I was, it was by sheer grace I survived. It did not compute in my head what was going on or the scale until few days later. Now I truly appreciate the mob mentality and how you can be seen as their cause of grievance just for being there and look "different"
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Old 09-24-2017, 03:35   #843
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It's hard to develop a brand new mindset quickly without making some stupid mistakes. Preparation both mentally and physically isn't something you can put off to the last minute. Important to have water, food, meds, and a full tank of gas (all the critical stuff) as a matter of habit. Also critical is to know how to get out of Dodge on routes that won't be choked by the hoards. If you choose to bug in (shelter in place) or bug out don't wait until the last minute to make your decision. The recent horror stories of traffic jams, no gas, and an approaching calamity should be vivid reminders. That said, it's not wise to exhaust your time worrying about things that probably won't happen. Obsessing is not planning. I live in a quiet rural town, but well within the driving range of the potential maniacs of DC. Being ready for the great whatever is a matter of course.

This is good gouge, frostfire. Thanks for sharing the post.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:16   #844
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Move at right angles to the mob sounds like a logical tips.
Anyone here who've been caught (prepared or unprepared) in the midst of an urban uprising care to share their lesson learned?
Unprepared. Was learning new 35mm camera & developing at the craft shop, so I was shooting boatloads of B&W. Encountering a little dust-up in the afternoon near the Farben Bldg. & found myself behind a police line while a bunch of commie-supported students played around. Students did an envelopment on the Polizei and I found myself on the wrong side of the lines. As I ducked down behind a retaining wall to change film an officer came leaping over to crack my head & I can only assume he thought I was preparing something to throw. He put a nice dent in the camera body I sacrificed to save my skull as I screamed "WTH!", then a few seconds later actually said "Excuse me" in English. I grabbed my shit & squirted out the side just as the place went full sporty with lots of CS and water cannon.

Simple lack of situational awareness & not keeping my head on a swivel. The movement at right-angle to the 2 jaws of the closing vice was done instinctually, not because of any tactical acumen on my part - but it worked.

(I got some great prints out of it, but the CBR NCO said that my exposure didn't count for recurring mask test - it does clear the sinuses though.)
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Old 09-24-2017, 09:30   #845
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^^^all remember if you get caught up in a massive movement of the mob you are going to have to go with them while sliding to the side (edge) before making your right angle exit.
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Old 09-24-2017, 17:41   #846
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Does anyone have experience with this app (Voxer) - specifically for communicating with clan for/during emergencies?

Interested in thoughts, observations, usefulness, experiences.

Features
• Walkie Talkie and Messaging
• Built for iPhone, Android, and Web
• One-on-One or Group Chats
• Hands-Free [PRO]
• Team Management [PRO]
• End-to-End Encryption

https://voxer.com/plans-and-pricing
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Old 09-24-2017, 21:05   #847
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Does anyone have experience with this app (Voxer) - specifically for communicating with clan for/during emergencies?

Interested in thoughts, observations, usefulness, experiences.

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• Built for iPhone, Android, and Web
• One-on-One or Group Chats
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We use Zello, which is the same. Works fine if the other folks know how to use HTs.

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Old 09-24-2017, 21:32   #848
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We use Zello, which is the same. Works fine if the other folks know how to use HTs.

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Old 09-27-2017, 20:25   #849
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I Monitered Zello on social media and in zello. My AAR

https://concisemagazine.wordpress.co...g-one-another/

Lessons learned from Irma Rescue channels on Zello.

From monitoring many Zello emergency rescue accounts, I have learned that this could be a great tool for the future for people in disaster situation (If they have Internet capability)

I thought I would share a prep list for those Whom desire to assist their fellow man in tumultuous times.

Zello has provided a service that allows one to talk to a group or privately (Even encrypted) with Whom they like to. In Harvey, it was used for those Whom needed help or rescue when their primary Civil Support services were not available.

In disaster, you do not know what kind of communications you will have. Cell towers, main line phone lines, cable service, Internet, Satellite communications, and even 911 could fail to be available. It could leave one with only CB and HAM operators to rely upon.

During and after these storms, many were without such ability and the Interet was the only way to communicate. Hence Zello filled the void. For may, they just wanted to chat with others to not feel so alone. For some, it was the only lifesaving tool they had.

Some ISP Providers like Spectrum and Xfinity did, to the best of their ability, provide emergency free Internet service where they could. Kudos to you for that.

Having introduced the context, I wanted to present you with a Prep list that presents you with an avenue on how you may contribute, and how to keep out of trouble with the Internet of things.

1.First mission is information flow. Inform and coordinate with Local, State, and Federal Authorities prior to sending someone into any situation – if at all possible. For dispatchers, phone is the finest weapon you have.

As a Civilian, you are merely and augmentation service or force. The State and Local Officials are your primary support group. In cases they are over-loaded, they may ask one of your groups for help but that rarely, if ever, happens. It is question of Liability few Government officials will want to address in the fog of a real event.

Duplicate calls, duplicate rescues, and mass confusion can lead to life threatening situations if the channels are repetitive. I learned some of what I tell you here from the Cajun Navy as they have been at this awhile. They have tried to provide an example of Private Civil Augmentation.

You have to be “Trusted” to talk on their network channels which means, you fill out the form to volunteer. After which, you get passwords. Being a Non-Profit, they would like to maintain their 5013C status. This means accountability must be up-held. In fact, your information has to be cleared through the Department of Homeland Security.

2. Verification. I observed several possible pranks or traps coming over channel. Once you verify it is an actual person in an actual flooded area that does not intend to rob you or worse. There are always a few bad faith calls.

Which leads us to

3. Privatization of service. This is set by Infrastructure Categories.

4. Channel control. You will want separate channels for functioning separation of information. Many rescue groups have a main chat room where everything is handled. This is not Kosher. All the jackals and jokers come about in an Emergency situation not recognizing that If you do interfere with a rescue, you may be sent to Prison.

You never have enough dispatchers

Take your calls separate from the room with friend request to verify and if they are pranking, kick them out of the room

Have separate, encrypted channels for private information.

Never let people know where supplies, water, food, or gas is going over public channels. This is how you get raided. Also Coordinate with local Authority when shipping such things.

Try to moderate your volume to %80 percent. Some calls you can barely hear, some will wake everyone up in your neighborhood.

Keep weather checks and regular info on other channels than your work channels. Anything you can get from weather channel or AM radio in your car. This information may be useful on the ground for rescuers, but it is of no use for a rescue channel when people are asking for a weather check every 3 minutes.

Keep the channels clear. Block and report abuse. Separate the chatter. Gotta keep them separated.

5. For those on the ground who need verbal communication, the following resources are available Dispatchers:

Zello

Crowdsourse

Gas Buddy

Google maps

Apple maps

waze

wink news

ventusky maps

windfinder

FEMA APP IS AWESOME!

Local power company outage maps

Animal Control

Animal rescue shelters

Shelter apps – Local shelters, Evacuation shelters that allow pets. They are Our Family too. Check shot records too.

HAM Radio

CB Radio

Firechat

Mesh networks

Morse code

White flags on roof-tops of houses

Local nuclear plant data sites

Local water treatment plants

local chemical company plants

Local food market corporate sites (Distro – disribution info if they post it)

Uhaul, storage, UPS, FEDEX, Pipelines, Railroad, Greyhound, Hubs. Airports, Ports and Port Authority, CoastGuard, National Guatd, Attourney generals office, Governors Office,

6. As a moderator. seeking clarity of information is the key. You can be the straw that stirs the drink, or the one that breaks the chain. Some operators having stress have time and need to blow off steam with their fellows. So, when OPTEMPO slows down, let them know each-other and chat. But if emergency comes about it is “BREAK – Clear Channel”.

Give them ten seconds to speak and block them. Yet be cautious, few may be real, but they can go to one of the main popular rooms to ask.

7. Access: HUBS. You are looking for a way to somewhere, and always looking for a direct path at expense.

But what if you were traveling somewhere and got stuck at the airport? You ask where the nearest HUB is to get you closer to destination. Sometimes, flying (Or driving, or via Train or rickshaw or whatever) is better than waiting in airports. Buses and trains, private planes, Mariner charter, Cruise Ships! Support them too! Any logistic line is safe haven.

Buses, Trains, Uber, Lyft, Airbnb could find a place a block away. Do not discount Local Militias.

If you are Legit, someone needs to perk an ear up. But if you clog LOGISTIC Trains or get in the way of even the Local Sheriff, you are in the wrong unless you can stress test your case.

7. Record what you do. You can take screen shots and pictures. If you called 911, you are going to want to remember when. Sometimes calls go UN-answered so you will want to be able to show something.

8. Sheltering. They will not be checking immigration status at shelter but they may check for warrants, naturally. They will also want to know if your pets have been vaccinated.

9. Be creative. Does someone attached to machines need to be evacuated when the power goes out? Or could you just bring them a generator.

The Elderly could require a range of specialized equipment. Sometimes contacting the manufacturer helps to get equipment where it needs to go.

Baby formula, diapers, and dog food always run low in these events and as always – Fuel.

Also, listen to Frefal! http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2017/09/r...N+ARGENTINA%29
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Old 09-27-2017, 20:28   #850
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Anyone please correct me where I may be wrong here.
This is an AAR. Use any of it in your Operations with the median, reproof, correct, or delete as you see fit please.
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Old 09-27-2017, 21:08   #851
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Not seeing much mention, but in the immediate aftermath of a disaster, cash is king, as banking services are down and will not be restored until power, communications, and personnel can return to work.

The government and the banks would like to move to a cashless society, but this is a situation where that would present a huge problem.

Credit cards may be of use before the full onslaught, but once the financial network is down, people will need cash.

The amount to have on hand would depend on what your needs are and how long the banking systems are out of service. The former can be a mostly known factor, but the latter is impossible to predict.

I would want to have at least a month's expenses in a cash emergency fund, secured somewhere you can easily access it during a disaster (not at the bank).

Texas, Florida, and particularly Puerto Rico, have proven this out. A small island with 3.5 million people and no power or comms and the banks and ATMs closed is not going to accept credit cards or provide you with cash.

In a long term disaster, or a financial crisis, cash may not have value for very long either.

Just another contingency to prepare for.

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Old 09-27-2017, 21:41   #852
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"Texas, Florida, and particularly Puerto Rico, have proven this out. A small island with 3.5 million people and no power or comms and the banks and ATMs closed is not going to accept credit cards or provide you with cash.

In a long term disaster, or a financial crisis, cash may not have value for very long either."


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Old 09-28-2017, 09:30   #853
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Another reminder about banks. Not only may they not be open, but they may be as likely to flood as your own property including the non water proof safe deposit boxes. This may put important identity and few financial documents at risk if stored their.
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