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Old 03-03-2018, 07:33   #76
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While this is a feel good story about the survival of one person, it asks or begs the asking of several more questions.

How a first responder disregarded an order and saved a Florida school shooting victim's life - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/27/healt...rnd/index.html

Namely who “ordered” EMS to take GSW victims to a children’s hospital 20 miles further away then the ‘nearest’ hospital with a trauma capability?

As an EMT-P myself (once upon a time) you did load and goes to the nearest trauma center.

Another question that needs to be asked is why did they establish a ‘triage’ tent for so few patients with such a large medical capability?

I have some of my own beliefs and why the article mentions “organized chaos” what I hear through more official sources is that it was anything but ‘organized’!

A lot of those kids died where they lay because BCSO delayed entry and treatment. JMO
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:19   #77
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So much for showing initiative in Broward County.

Two SWAT officers responded to the Parkland rampage uninvited. They’ve been punished.

BY NICHOLAS NEHAMAS
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March 07, 2018 12:08 PM

As word spread that an armed attacker was shooting up a Parkland high school, two members of the Miramar Police Department’s SWAT team responded to the scene.

They had been training in nearby Coral Springs earlier that day and wanted to help end a deadly mass shooting that claimed 17 lives.

But their own commander said he didn’t know they were going. And the Broward Sheriff’s Office — worried about over-crowding a chaotic scene with law enforcement officers — didn’t ask for them to show up. BSO already had its own SWAT team in motion.

Eight days after the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the two Miramar officers, Det. Jeffery Gilbert and Det. Carl Schlosser, were temporarily suspended from duty with the SWAT team. They remain on active duty with the department, according to a Miramar police spokeswoman.

“Effective immediately you have been suspended from the SWAT Team until further notice,” wrote Capt. Kevin Nosowicz, the unit’s commander, in a Feb. 22 memo obtained by the Miami Herald through a public records request. “Please make arrangements with the training department to turn in your SWAT-issued rifle.”

The human urge to aid in a disaster is strong. But it can also run counter to police training. Too much response to a mass casualty situation can create confusion and hinder responders, as recent mass shootings have shown, according to Pat Franklin, a retired Miami Beach police detective.

“This is not their area, this is not their jurisdiction,” said Franklin, who consults with law enforcement agencies on internal affairs investigations. “You don’t want to let those guys loose into something that’s chaotic where they might take inappropriate action. It is prudent to have them stand down unless there is a plan.”

The memo told Gilbert and Schlosser that they acted “without the knowledge or authorization from your chain of command” and created an “officer safety situation due to dispatch not knowing your location or activity.”

Reached on their cellphones, Schlosser and Gilbert said they could not comment.

While the Miramar officers were desperate to head to Stoneman Douglas, the first BSO deputies to arrive didn’t rush in to confront the shooter, leading to questions about how well the agency handled its response. Four armed deputies, including school resource officer Scot Peterson, did not immediately enter the building where Cruz slaughtered students and staff, as Broward Sheriff Scott Israel has said is agency policy. A BSO captain also issued an order to form a perimeter while many deputies thought the shooting was still going on, according to a partial dispatch log obtained by the Herald. (It had, in fact, ended minutes earlier and BSO has defended the captain’s actions.)

A third Miramar SWAT team member, Officer Kevin Gonzalez, was also temporarily suspended for his “direct connection” to online posts criticizing Miramar police after the shooting. A source familiar with the posts said they questioned why Miramar’s SWAT team was not sent to confront shooter Nikolas Cruz, and that they may have been made by Gonzalez’s girlfriend.

“These posts were found to have a negative connotation to our city and the Miramar Police Department,” stated a memo informing Gonzalez of his suspension.

Gonzalez also declined to comment.

After the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport shooting last year, which left five people dead, an after-action report noted confusion caused by a massive influx of law enforcement officers, some of whom left their cars parked on roadways, blocking access.

The report recommended a unified command structure and better communication between agencies.

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FBI briefed lawmakers on failures leading up to Florida shooting

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Acting FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich met with lawmakers on the House Oversight and Government Reform and Judiciary committees Tuesday to discuss the missteps, which were revealed in the days after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

Bowdich acknowledged that the FBI failed to follow its own protocol after it received a tip in January about the accused shooter, Nikolas Cruz, 19, and vowed to take corrective actions, according to a press release issued by Reps. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), the chairmen of the Oversight and Judiciary committees, respectively.
The FBI failed, resulting in 17 deaths in Florida. Still the left's answer is to further infringe upon the 2A rights of law abiding citizens.
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The report recommended a unified command structure and better communication between agencies.
Because holding out your hands to the sky and chanting "NIMMMMMMMMS" will kill the shooter.
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Because the Department of Education is known for it's ability to develop defensive security strategies.


We'll see what this turns into but I expect no real solutions.


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Because holding out your hands to the sky and chanting "NIMMMMMMMMS" will kill the shooter.
It's always "fix the institution", never hold an individual(s) accountable though.
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Because the Department of Education is known for it's ability to develop defensive security strategies.


We'll see what this turns into but I expect no real solutions.
The only thing the Dept of Indoctrination can do is ensure no school districts are following the Obama/Holder plan of not holding students responsible for criminal behavior. Florida proved that this does not work and has tragic consequences.
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Old 03-25-2018, 00:17   #83
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March For Life!

March For Life! I’ve watched this whole mess unfold itself, culminating in today’s march across America and the world.

I have a lot words for these people...naive seems to sum it up. We are living in pre and post 911 era of the safest times in American history (minus what has yet to be experienced from the Obama destruction of America) these kids and apparently their parents forget hiding under desks from nuclear obliteratations.

The thought of being a victim of gun violence in or out of school should be farthest thing from everyone’s mind. The only reason it’s there is because of un-manifested fear. Children have a substantially higher chance of being struck by lightning than getting shot ever. But let’s not allow facts to get in the way.

While these naive kids protest against “guns” (and besides the fact that guns on the hips or hands of police protecting them) we are reminded of the message that socialists used to disarm an entire generation before us.

It’s truly sad that only a few children today see and understand the history of why (as insignificant as it might be) the value of a military grade weapon in the hands of a population valuing freedom over tyranny can be the most evil tool developed when not being used to secure freedom.

The gun didn’t decide to be good or bad. It can be used for either reason but the use of it for good outweighs any use of it for ill purposes.

An education is hard to come by in today’s schools. Revisionist history had succeeded in failing our kids of the relevant facts needed to make good choices.

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March For Life! I’ve watched this whole mess unfold itself, culminating in today’s march across America and the world.

I have a lot words for these people...

While these naive kids protest against “guns” (and besides the fact that guns on the hips or hands of police protecting them) we are reminded of the message that socialists used to disarm an entire generation before us.
Generation Z.... I prefer the term "The Incompetent Generation" or maybe it's "Generation Hate"?

The gun hasn't changed. What has?

Look at a list of school shootings. These are not deranged 40-year-olds storming a building. These are teenagers killing other teenagers.

Children who have come to the conclusion that the only way to express themselves is through the barrel of a weapon.

So to all the marchers... In the midst of being a sock puppet for Bloomberg and MSM maybe there is a need for a little self-reflection? What is it that you are doing to each other that creates this level of hate? What is it that YOU the teenager are doing to your fellow man to drive them to the brink?

Nope, the gun hasn't changed. It's inanimate. What has changed is the incompetent and emotionally empty teen generation.

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The heart and sense of loss the kids had has been hijacked by Soros, the Obamaites and Pelosiites. The left does this all the time. It's all they know.

This hijacking won't go unnoticed by the youth, either. They are smarter and more suspect now days than ever before of the slick sales and plaid pants of those who are trying to sell them a bill of goods. I hope it all backfires and blows up in Soros' face, and I think it will.

The Vomitites (Progressives) want nothing but a Constitutional Convention to drive their twisted agenda down the throats of the world. They have no argument. All they have is an agenda...destroy everything traditionally American.

Makes me sick to see these kids being fed the script they are being fed. It's like watching a child being led away by a pedifile. But, personally, I think the youth of America are ultimately smarter than to buy into it, and that eventually they'll reject the whole thing. Lobbyists all had better be on notice. The next generation has your number. JMHO.
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Liberals will never take responsibility for their actions that result in tragedy

Amazing New Breakthrough to Reduce Mass Shootings!
Ann Coulter | Wednesday Feb 21, 2018 7:05 PM

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As fun as it is to ridicule the FBI for devoting massive resources to chasing down Hillary Clinton’s oppo research while blowing off repeated, specific warnings about school shooter Nikolas Cruz, we’ve put a lot on the agency’s plate.

We’re hauling in nearly 2 million manifestly unvetted Third World immigrants every year, leading to a slew of FBI “Watch Lists” with a million names apiece. In 2015, Director James Comey said that there were ISIS investigations in all 50 states — even Idaho and Alaska! And that’s just one terrorist organization.

Maybe the FBI brass would still be a bunch of incompetent, PC nincompoops if we weren’t dumping millions of psychotic and terrorist foreigners on the country. But even the most efficient organization would have trouble keeping track of the Nikolas Cruzes when our immigration policies require approximately one-third of the country to be constantly watching another third of the country.

Thanks to our Second Amendment, the United States has fewer mass shootings per capita than many other developed countries, including Norway, France, Switzerland, Finland, Belgium and the Czech Republic. (And 98 percent of our mass shootings occur in “gun-free zones.”)

But imagine if we could cut our mass shootings in half?

There have been about 34 mass shootings since 2000. Forty-seven percent — 16 — were committed by first- and second-generation immigrants, i.e. people who never would have been here but for Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act.

And the immigrant mass shootings have been some of the most spectacular ones, such as Fort Hood and San Bernardino. Two of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history, at Virginia Tech in 2007 and at the Pulse Nightclub in 2016, were committed by first- and second-generation immigrants, i.e., people who were in this country because Teddy was pouting in his room and refused to come out until he got his own legacy.

(Excluded from both lists: the Las Vegas shooting, because law enforcement has released nothing but lies about it, so that shooting remains unclassifiable; family dispute shootings; targeted assassinations of police officers; and shootings on Indian reservations.)

Here’s the list of immigrant mass shootings, defined as a shooting at the same general time and location, not during the commission of another crime, that leaves at least four people dead — i.e. no gangland shootings, no “man kills family, then self” and no drug deals gone bad.

On account of the Rule of Journalism that permits the word “immigrant” to be used only in sentences with the word “valedictorian,” you may not have heard of some of these mass shootings at all.

1) Omar Mateen, son of Afghan immigrants, killed 49 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando on June 12, 2016.

2) First- and second-generation Pakistani immigrants Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik opened fire at a community center Christmas party in San Bernardino, California, on Dec. 2, 2015, killing 14 people.

3) English immigrant Christopher Harper-Mercer killed 9 people at Umpqua Community College in southwest Oregon on Oct. 1, 2015.

4) Kuwaiti immigrant Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez shot and killed five people in attacks on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on July 16, 2015.

5) Second-generation Malaysian immigrant Elliot Rodger killed six people on May 23, 2014, around the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara.

6) Second-generation immigrant John Zawahri opened fire at his Southern California home and later at the campus of Santa Monica College on June 7, 2013, killing five in all. (The New York Times never mentioned that he was the child of Lebanese immigrants. The Times didn’t even mention that his Arab father used to beat up his mother, despite that paper’s usual heightened interest in stories about men being mean to women.)

7) Cuban immigrant Pedro Alberto Vargas fatally shot six people in his apartment complex in Hialeah, Florida, on July 26, 2013.

8) Probable Barbadian immigrant Aaron Alexis shot and killed 12 people inside the Washington Navy Yard on Sept. 16, 2013. (See vdare.com/posts/aaron-alexis-may-have-been-a-barbadian-american-like-eric-holder.)

9) South Korean immigrant One L. Goh opened fire at Oikos University in Oakland, California, killing seven people on April 2, 2012.

10) Mexican immigrant Eduardo Sencion shot up an IHOP in Carson City, Nevada, on Sept. 6, 2011, killing four people — three National Guardsmen and a 67-year-old woman.

11) Second-generation immigrant Nidal Malik Hasan, son of Palestinian immigrants, killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas, on Nov. 5, 2009.

12) Vietnamese immigrant Jiverly Wong shot up the Binghamton, New York, American Civic Association on April 3, 2009, killing 13.

13) Bosnian immigrant Sulejman Talovic fatally shot five people at the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City on Feb. 12, 2007.

14) Seung-Hui Cho, a South Korean immigrant, slaughtered 32 people at Virginia Tech on April 16, 2007.

15) Hmong immigrant Chai Soua Vang killed six hunters in northern Wisconsin on Nov. 21, 2004.

16) Mexican immigrant Salvador Tapia shot up the Windy City Core Supply warehouse in Chicago in 2003, killing six of his former co-workers.

If you missed your favorite immigrant mass shooting, please note that I excluded Jamaican immigrant Colin Ferguson (Long Island Railroad massacre in 1993); Nigerian immigrant Peter Odighizuwa (Appalachian School of Law shooting in 2002); Haitian illegal immigrant Kesler Dufrene (North Miami shooting in 2012); and Nigerian immigrant Henry Williams Obotetukudo (Bronx-Lebanon Hospital shooting in 2017). We are only counting mass shootings since 2000 that left at least four people dead.

First- and second-generation immigrants have committed more than 40 percent of all mass shootings since 2000. I know we’ve been admitting Third World immigrants at a breakneck pace, but I don’t think immigrants make up nearly half the population yet.

Once we exclude the immigrant mass shooters, a clearer pattern emerges. The typical American perpetrator is a young man with paranoid schizophrenia — or, as we’re now euphemistically calling it, “autism” — probably exacerbated by pot, a deadly combo platter.

An immigration moratorium and widespread deportations would not only cut mass shootings in half, but it would also free up the FBI’s time to focus on these delusional young men with the terrifying stare, who hear voices no one else hears.

Young men like Nikolas Cruz.
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The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline
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Nikolas Cruz’s psychosis ended in a bloody massacre not only because of the stunning incompetence of the Broward County Sheriff’s Department. It was also the result of liberal insanity working exactly as it was intended to.

School and law enforcement officials knew Cruz was a ticking time bomb. They did nothing because of a deliberate, willful, bragged-about policy to end the “school-to-prison pipeline.” This is the feature part of the story, not the bug part.

If Cruz had taken out full-page ads in the local newspapers, he could not have demonstrated more clearly that he was a dangerous psychotic. He assaulted students, cursed out teachers, kicked in classroom doors, started fist fights, threw chairs, threatened to kill other students, mutilated small animals, pulled a rifle on his mother, drank gasoline and cut himself, among other “red flags.”

Over and over again, students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School reported Cruz’s terrifying behavior to school administrators, including Kelvin Greenleaf, “security specialist,” and Peter Mahmood, head of JROTC.

At least three students showed school administrators Cruz’s near-constant messages threatening to kill them — e.g., “I am going to enjoy seeing you down on the grass,” “Im going to watch ypu bleed,” “iam going to shoot you dead” — including one that came with a photo of Cruz’s guns. They warned school authorities that he was bringing weapons to school. They filed written reports.

Threatening to kill someone is a felony. In addition to locking Cruz away for a while, having a felony record would have prevented him from purchasing a gun.

All the school had to do was risk Cruz not going to college, and depriving Yale University of a Latino class member, by reporting a few of his felonies — and there would have been no mass shooting.

But Cruz was never arrested. He wasn’t referred to law enforcement. He wasn’t even expelled.

Instead, Cruz was just moved around from school to school — six transfers in three years. But he was always sent back to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, in order to mainstream him, so that he could get a good job someday!

The moronic idea behind the “school-to-prison pipeline” is that the only reason so many “black and brown bodies” are in prison is because they were disciplined in high school, diminishing their opportunities. End the discipline and … problem solved!

It’s like “The Wizard of Oz” in reverse. The Wizard told the Scarecrow: You don’t need an education, you just need a diploma! The school-to-prison pipeline idiocy tells students: You don’t need to behave in high school, you just need to leave with no criminal record!

Of course, killjoys will say that removing the consequences of bad behavior only encourages more bad behavior. But that’s not the view of Learned Professionals, who took summer courses at Michigan State Ed School.

In a stroke of genius, they realized that the only problem criminals have is that people keep lists of their criminal activities. It’s the list that prevents them from getting into M.I.T. and designing space stations on Mars. Where they will cure cancer.

This primitive, stone-age thinking was made official Broward County policy in a Nov. 5, 2013, agreement titled “Collaborative Agreement on School Discipline.”

The first “whereas” clause of the agreement states that “the use of arrests and referrals to the criminal justice system may decrease a student’s chance of graduation, entering higher education, joining the military and getting a job.”

Get it? It’s the arrest — not the behavior that led to the arrest — that reduces a student’s chance at a successful life. (For example, just look at how much the district’s refusal to arrest Nikolas Cruz helped him!

The agreement’s third “whereas” clause specifically cites “students of color” as victims of the old, racist policy of treating criminal behavior criminally.

Say, in the middle of a drive to cut back on the arrest or expulsion of “students of color,” how do you suppose the school dealt with a kid named “Nikolas Cruz”? Might there be some connection between his Hispanic last name and the school’s abject refusal to do anything about Cruz’s repeated criminal behavior?

Just a few months ago, the superintendent of Broward County Public Schools, Robert W. Runcie, was actually bragging about how student arrests had plummeted under his bold leadership.

When he took over in 2011, the district had “the highest number of school-related arrests in the state.” But today, he boasted, Broward has “one of the lowest rates of arrest in the state.” By the simple expedient of ignoring criminal behavior, student arrests had declined by a whopping 78 percent.

FOOTBALL COACH: “When I took over this team a year ago, we were last in the league in pass defense. Today, we no longer keep that statistic!”

When it comes to spectacular crimes, it’s usually hard to say how it could have been prevented. But in this case, we have a paper trail. In the pursuit of a demented ideology, specific people agreed not to report, arrest or prosecute dangerous students like Nikolas Cruz.

These were the parties to the Nov. 5, 2013, agreement that ensured Cruz would be out on the street with full access to firearms:

Robert W. Runcie, Superintendent of Schools

Peter M. Weinstein, Chief Judge of the 17th Judicial Circuit

Michael J. Satz, State Attorney

Howard Finkelstein, Public Defender

Scott Israel, Broward County Sheriff

Franklin Adderley, Chief of the Fort Lauderdale Police Department

Wansley Walters, Secretary of the Florida Department of Juvenile Justice

Marsha Ellison, President of the Fort Lauderdale Branch of the NAACP and Chair of the Juvenile Justice Advisory Board

Nikolas Cruz may be crazy, but the parties to that agreement are crazy, too. They decided to make high school students their guinea pigs for an experiment based on a noxious ideology. The blood of 17 people is on their hands.

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The media is plastering the Hogg kid's picture all over the place from the "We Want Communism" rally. I didn't attach the picture here mainly because I can't stand that smug little scripted sock puppet. I know he's trying to come off as fierce and determined but all I can think of is he is either trying to patent his own mixture of the Nazi and black power salutes or else he was showing his opening dance move in hopes of creating a resurgence of Disco.
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The media is plastering the Hogg kid's picture all over the place from the "We Want Communism" rally. I didn't attach the picture here mainly because I can't stand that smug little scripted sock puppet. I know he's trying to come off as fierce and determined but all I can think of is he is either trying to patent his own mixture of the Nazi and black power salutes or else he was showing his opening dance move in hopes of creating a resurgence of Disco.
This little asswipe has had his 15 minutes of fame. Meanwhile the dems are licking their chops just waiting for the day these dipshits can vote. I am glad that I am on the backside of life.
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The one self evident point with all the recent "Marches for Whateverthefuck" (Women's March, March for our Lives etc.) at least here in Philly, is the use of the exact same "template for change" that we're seeing time and time again.

Speaker 1 and 2 are usually focused somewhat on the initial topic at hand while pointing out the affixed "register to vote" tables, and of course, screw the government and all its oppressive ways...... after that - its fair game for what ever social construct and woe you wish to bleat or shriek about from the stage.

Yesterdays 10,000 attendees, while comprised almost exclusively of white, affluent, Birkenstock sandal wearing poster carriers (with children in tow), cheered and applauded while speaker after speaker berated them for their white privilege, LGBT non-conformity, white male CIS-ness, and their inability to change the system to whatever the speaker thought should be the rule of the land - (spoiler alert - again, its mostly because of white guys failings.)

Now, don't get me wrong, these "shows" are more entertaining than anything cable TV can bring to you especially with the occasional "disarm, and or, fuck the police" rants shouted from a stage, located inside a protective ring of blocking vehicles, and armed jack booted thugs, who were usually occupied with shooing 90lb males and 200lb females (I think) from taking a tongue out, 1 finger salute selfie in front of the omnipresent oppressive force occupation vehicles. (you know, just like those brave freedom fighters during the real Nazi occupations)

Even worse was our own local politicians who all demanded special parking for a quick escape, then jumped on stage to thank the masses in attendance while yet again, promising to "end the reign of the NRA, and all those vile assault rifles of any type". Oddly, all failed to mention the multiple founded shootings, and God knows how many attempted shootings just the previous night within the city....

But camaraderie did abound amongst the marches staff of millennial's. As I watched a scrawny young man attempting to carry a cinder block (as in 1/solo cinder block) some 200ft to anchor a "Register to Vote Here flag/pole" he literally put it down (and shook his arms as if prepping for an Olympic relay) several times. Each time, in my head, the tune "I think I can, I think I can" ran over and over, until mercifully, he was assisted by something female with much larger triceps and green hair.

There really seems to be a great separation of reality here as to exactly what democracy actually means at most of the recent protest marches.
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