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Redskins to Johnny Manziel: It isn't college
Johnny Manziel you're a idiot!!
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Did he ever do this at Texas A7M?? I don't think so. So why would he think this is okay in the NFL. Hello you're on Monday Night Football too. You think he would keep in mind there are cameras EVERYWHERE.
As I have said, Johnny Manziel will bomb out just as the rest of the QBs have in the pass. What is the deal with all these QB's coming out of College. Cam Newton, Robert Griffin III, Tim Tibow, and Johnny Manziel just to name a few. Why can't they porduce in the NFL??
It's not just a few or one or two, its many coming out that cannot produce once in the NFL.
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08-19-2014, 08:45
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Of the QBs you listed, the reason they struggle is because of the skill of the defensive players in the NFL. Going back to Vick, scrambling QBs have not done very well because they are facing much more capable defensive players.
It is one thing to instinctively run around the backfield against good college defenders and it is quite another to do it against the very good NFL players.
It seems that you have to go back to 2004 for a strong QB draft. That year included Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, and Drew Brees.
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08-19-2014, 09:33
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What is the deal with all these QB's coming out of College. Cam Newton, Robert Griffin III, Tim Tibow, and Johnny Manziel just to name a few. Why can't they porduce in the NFL?
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My $.02 there are only 32 of these jobs in the world, and it's a highly demanding skillset. Are there ever more than 4-5 great QBs at one time in the NFL?
Manziel was disrespectful to his coach and taunted the opposition in college and got away with it due to his skill. Now he is playing with men, and he will learn the hard way, they hit harder than college boys.
I'm not sure how production is defined, Russell Wilson won a SB in year two, Luck, Dalton, RG3, and Tebow all took their teams to the playoffs much earlier in their careers than many great QB's of the past.
Aaron Rodgers sat for years, Brees was average the first few years, at some point the light goes on or it doesn't. Manziel was a great college player, he hasn't even played a regular season NFL snap yet so punk or not, we will see if he can play.
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08-19-2014, 10:32
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Did he ever do this at Texas A7M?? I don't think so. So why would he think this is okay in the NFL. Hello you're on Monday Night Football too. You think he would keep in mind there are cameras EVERYWHERE.
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Remember when he was benched against Rice for taunting one of their players and drawing a penalty?
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08-19-2014, 13:24
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He is a legend in his own mind a by product of media hype. I watched him in college a couple of times and he was an exciting guy on the field but he was so full of himself. It is guys like him that have ruined the NFL for me, I grew up idolizing Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr and Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, and countless other giants of the game Manziel could not carry water for any of these guys.
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08-19-2014, 16:16
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He is a legend in his own mind a by product of media hype. I watched him in college a couple of times and he was an exciting guy on the field but he was so full of himself. It is guys like him that have ruined the NFL for me, I grew up idolizing Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr and Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, and countless other giants of the game Manziel could not carry water for any of these guys.
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And do his teammates respect him, or just see him as another flash in the pan?
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08-19-2014, 19:20
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And do his teammates respect him, or just see him as another flash in the pan?
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Well it would seem that the rumors in Berea are beginning to come true. His team mates aren't too happy with him and his "Playboy/Childish" behavior off the field. As you can imagine here in NEO, the sports segments on the various Cleveland news outlets have been talking him up big time. Everywhere you look, watch, and hear is "Johnny Football" this or that. Personally, I think he needs this to happen to him, in-order for him to get his act together. I mean I don't want the boy dead or hurt seriously, but this is football, NFL football, right?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtcQqwpCFJ4 
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08-20-2014, 06:31
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The NFL has a way of taking care of such things. Anyone remember Brian Bosworth trying to tackle Bo Jackson?
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08-20-2014, 06:38
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Remember when he was benched against Rice for taunting one of their players and drawing a penalty?
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Yeah I remember him going after another player while at A&M.
I think he just lost his starter position QB with this.
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08-20-2014, 07:02
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And do his teammates respect him, or just see him as another flash in the pan?
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It's the Browns. They only have flash in the pan QBs. He's perfect for the "Mistake by the Lake", it's just too bad that the fans are getting their hopes up. It's a shame that he won't start against the Steelers, that would be an interesting welcome to the real NFL, not this preseason BS.
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08-20-2014, 09:05
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Anyone remember Brian Bosworth trying to tackle Bo Jackson?
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Who could forget?!!! But who could tackle Bo?
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08-20-2014, 10:42
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Knew a guy that roomed with Bradshaw when he tried out for the Steelers as a QB (didn't make it). He had absolutely nothing but good things to say about Bradshaw, class act all the way. Johnny Football couldn't shine Bradshaw's shoes.
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08-20-2014, 11:19
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Knew a guy that roomed with Bradshaw when he tried out for the Steelers as a QB (didn't make it). He had absolutely nothing but good things to say about Bradshaw, class act all the way. Johnny Football couldn't shine Bradshaw's shoes.
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My wife has a friend, Irene (formally from Scotland) that worked for CO at LAX in 1980. After work, she and friends would often go out for drinks at a local bar in El Segundo. One night, the week before the Super Bowl, several big guys offered to by them drinks and they accepted. When Irene asked why they were in town, one of them said that they were in LA to go to the Super Bowl. Irene is a bit dramatic, in a Scottish way, and said, “If you don’t have tickets you’ll never get in. It’s been sold out for months.” The tall blonde guy she was talking to said something along the lines of, "Oh, they’ll have to let me in. I'm the Steeler’s quarterback.” 
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08-20-2014, 16:29
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Knew a guy that roomed with Bradshaw when he tried out for the Steelers as a QB (didn't make it). He had absolutely nothing but good things to say about Bradshaw, class act all the way. Johnny Football couldn't shine Bradshaw's shoes.
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I perfectly understand this. Also, this is why Brandon Hoyer will be the starting quarterback.
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08-29-2014, 16:38
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The way Kenny Hill played last night has made everyone in College Station forget about Johnny Whatzizname....
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