08-20-2018, 18:44
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#376
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by Pete
Lot of guys posted up until they got an 18X contract.
Only one from this last page posted that he got selected.
Oh, well.
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Lots of training the body and not the mind going on
Not dedicated mentally once SFAS starts the suck fest from what my conversations with the 18X's out of training in hold over status.
remember you cant ever stop till they tell you to stop ! 100% effort .
One other thing I have seen as a trend. No one is building up their grip strength and the ability to climb a rope ! its all well and good you can meet the standard on the PT test. You do that one time in SFAS. Rucking lots of miles with 50 lbs that is what it is to build up for the walking that is required. But guess what it is building you up mentally as well....
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03-07-2019, 14:32
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#377
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Great Lakes, IL.
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3x 2 mile ruck run; 5 min rest
60# ruck
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Going to start Tactical Athlete Ruck-based Selection on Monday.
What are you doing?
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03-07-2019, 19:34
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#378
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Colorado Springs
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Originally Posted by slippery_squid
3x 2 mile ruck run; 5 min rest
60# ruck
18:01
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19:43
Going to start Tactical Athlete Ruck-based Selection on Monday.
What are you doing?
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Why are you running with a 60 lbs ruck?
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03-08-2019, 10:52
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#379
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Great Lakes, IL.
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Originally Posted by Razor
Why are you running with a 60 lbs ruck?
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I have limited time (hour +/-) to workout until my division graduates from basic training.
Only way to get more miles in the same amount of time is to run.
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03-08-2019, 15:08
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#380
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 18 yrs upstate NY, 30 yrs South Florida, 20 yrs Conch Republic, now chasing G-Kids in NOVA & UK
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Originally Posted by slippery_squid
I have limited time (hour +/-) to workout until my division graduates from basic training.
Only way to get more miles in the same amount of time is to run.
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Not a 18D, but you're pushing your feet & joints with that load. Be careful..
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03-12-2019, 01:02
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#381
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Hawaii
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Lower body lifting and 6x800m run repeats today. Last week I had the second laser session to have the tattoo on my hand removed to qualify for enlistment. Most painful thing I’ve ever experienced, and probably got another 6-10 sessions to go, but it will be worth it.
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03-18-2019, 16:06
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#382
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Week 5 of the 14 SFAS Prep. Just try to push hard and stay healthy. Unfortunately it’s been incredibly cold where I am currently living so I have been doing treadmill running and getting outdoors for a run twice a week when the weather isn’t 9 degrees. My two mile time is mid 13’s and my three milers are like 21. Haven’t gotten out for a 5 miler.
Have only done two timed rucks, 4 miler @ 62 mins and another at 55. That was more of a speedy walk, kind of tried to ‘light pole’ it, if that makes sense. Being that it’s been so cold what I’ve been doing is directly after my workouts I put the ruck on, cook my food eat standing up then do whatever standing for another hour or hour and a half in my apartment.
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03-18-2019, 16:25
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#383
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sneaking back and forth across the Border
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Originally Posted by Tandem
Week 5 of the 14 SFAS Prep. Just try to push hard and stay healthy. Unfortunately it’s been incredibly cold where I am currently living so I have been doing treadmill running and getting outdoors for a run twice a week when the weather isn’t 9 degrees. My two mile time is mid 13’s and my three milers are like 21. Haven’t gotten out for a 5 miler.
Have only done two timed rucks, 4 miler @ 62 mins and another at 55. That was more of a speedy walk, kind of tried to ‘light pole’ it, if that makes sense. Being that it’s been so cold what I’ve been doing is directly after my workouts I put the ruck on, cook my food eat standing up then do whatever standing for another hour or hour and a half in my apartment.
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If you think weather will be a factor during training quit now. The worse it is the better. Go out and train if you wish to pass. During Phase 1 we were iced in and snowed on to where we had to do a bonfire to get people out of their positions to continue on patrol. Weather will suck but the war goes on.
Now get back to training.
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03-18-2019, 20:29
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Location: Northwest AR
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT
If you think weather will be a factor during training quit now. The worse it is the better. Go out and train if you wish to pass. During Phase 1 we were iced in and snowed on to where we had to do a bonfire to get people out of their positions to continue on patrol. Weather will suck but the war goes on.
Now get back to training.
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Best response I have seen in a while. If it rains DRIVE ON. If it is cold DRIVE ON. If it is hot DRIVE ON.
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03-19-2019, 10:13
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#385
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SF_BHT
If you think weather will be a factor during training quit now. The worse it is the better. Go out and train if you wish to pass. During Phase 1 we were iced in and snowed on to where we had to do a bonfire to get people out of their positions to continue on patrol. Weather will suck but the war goes on.
Now get back to training.
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Understood, my reasoning is more based on injury prevention and overall health. I live in a metropolitan area and the sidewalks/roads ice frequently so I figured it would be best to avoid it if possible. Second reason was I was there for a ‘ship day’ for the other recruits and one of the was coughing and the recruiters said it sounded like he had mucus in his chest and didn’t let him ship.
Never really had *too* many problems with the extreme cold growing up but will acknowledge I’ve never been as uncomfortable while in it as I will he during training.
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03-19-2019, 14:25
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Originally Posted by Tandem
Understood, my reasoning is more based on injury prevention and overall health. I live in a metropolitan area and the sidewalks/roads ice frequently so I figured it would be best to avoid it if possible. Second reason was I was there for a ‘ship day’ for the other recruits and one of the was coughing and the recruiters said it sounded like he had mucus in his chest and didn’t let him ship.
Never really had *too* many problems with the extreme cold growing up but will acknowledge I’ve never been as uncomfortable while in it as I will he during training.
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All I hear is Waa WAA Waa Wa... Background noise. If it is to be it will happen. People get sick and you can not pick and chose when it will happen. Sounds very XXXXXX To me. Not sure which special category you might fall into.
I went to training group and fractured a metatarsal in hand to hand and taped it up and pushed trough. During Phase 2 got Pneumonia and did not miss training. During the Phase III infill jump thought I sprained my ankle, taped it up, limped for 2+ weeks and soaked it in streams at night and passed all my task. When we were ex-filled the hospital did an X-ray and found that my leg was broken. They re-broke it and put me in a full leg cast. Shit happens but you have to tough through it. I had a goal and they could not stop me. That is what SF is looking for. On Graduation the next week I went across the stage in a painted cast and crutches and went on to my first Group.
If you hide out and stay afraid you will never get through training. Might not want to go to jump School as a PLF trainer exercise or the Swing Landing trainer might cause you to get hurt.
Life is full of hurdles and challenges and if you do not attack them full boar you will never get to where your goal is.
Just my 2cents
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03-19-2019, 14:49
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 15
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT
All I hear is Waa WAA Waa Wa... Background noise. If it is to be it will happen. People get sick and you can not pick and chose when it will happen. Sounds very XXXXXX To me. Not sure which special category you might fall into.
I went to training group and fractured a metatarsal in hand to hand and taped it up and pushed trough. During Phase 2 got Pneumonia and did not miss training. During the Phase III infill jump thought I sprained my ankle, taped it up, limped for 2+ weeks and soaked it in streams at night and passed all my task. When we were ex-filled the hospital did an X-ray and found that my leg was broken. They re-broke it and put me in a full leg cast. Shit happens but you have to tough through it. I had a goal and they could not stop me. That is what SF is looking for. On Graduation the next week I went across the stage in a painted cast and crutches and went on to my first Group.
If you hide out and stay afraid you will never get through training. Might not want to go to jump School as a PLF trainer exercise or the Swing Landing trainer might cause you to get hurt.
Life is full of hurdles and challenges and if you do not attack them full boar you will never get to where your goal is.
Just my 2cents
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I agree with what you’re saying, and appreciate you sharing a bit of your journey with me. but since I am not in the Army yet I have to play it somewhat safe to mitigate some of the risk so I can actually get in. If I’m injured once I’m in training and in the Army, there’s nothing I can do but push on at that point. In my eyes it doesn’t make much sense to run on icy surfaces and potentially have the already long process of joining prolonged further or halted all together.
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03-19-2019, 19:45
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#388
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa
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Originally Posted by Tandem
I agree with what you’re saying, and appreciate you sharing a bit of your journey with me. but since I am not in the Army yet I have to play it somewhat safe to mitigate some of the risk so I can actually get in. If I’m injured once I’m in training and in the Army, there’s nothing I can do but push on at that point. In my eyes it doesn’t make much sense to run on icy surfaces and potentially have the already long process of joining prolonged further or halted all together.
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Wrong mindset. SF has no quit. Your job right now is to be in the best shape of your life and able to score high (read max) every PT event. When you get into the Army your PT will decrease and you will become weaker. Too scared (or pick your word) to PT outside then you better me doing it inside. Outside is better.
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03-20-2019, 04:40
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#389
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Ozarks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandem
I agree with what you’re saying, and appreciate you sharing a bit of your journey with me. but since I am not in the Army yet I have to play it somewhat safe to mitigate some of the risk so I can actually get in. If I’m injured once I’m in training and in the Army, there’s nothing I can do but push on at that point. In my eyes it doesn’t make much sense to run on icy surfaces and potentially have the already long process of joining prolonged further or halted all together.
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When I took my "over 40 physical", they found a cervical fracture, pars defect, fractured L5 and coccyx, and some other problems. I had 3 holes in my r. lower trap, 2 breaks in my right hand, broken r. ankle, had dislocated my l. shoulder 4 times, and a litany of stitched cuts ad nauseum. Only down time I had was a week or so in a holding Company and 1 cycle of Pre-Phase before SFQC.
Trust me- I had it EASY.
I was literally unaffected compared to guys who were always in the shit, or guys who are in it, now. I still train, ruck, shoot in my range/shoot house, etc. at 67.
It's forever, Aspirante; weather is irrevelant.
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03-21-2019, 00:37
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#390
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Hawaii
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Just running today. 3x 10min on/3min off at 80-90% effort. Run times are going down but still have a long ways to go.
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