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Old 08-30-2014, 11:24   #796
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And, Bernie Sanders of Vermont is a self-described Socialist - a democratic socialist, to pick nits.

It appears that Bernie is the rare "honest" socialist in that bunch.
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Old 08-30-2014, 18:10   #797
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It's amazing the number of Udall's in government. But, what's more amazing is that they are Mormons, probably the most conservative religion in the country. I got to know Mo Udall when I was working in television production and he was nothing like the current family of elected officials.

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Old 09-05-2014, 08:56   #798
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Even if the government can ban "dangerous and unusual" arms, what exactly is a "dangerous and unusual" arm?
Beats me. Any functional firearm is considered dangerous when loaded, and I have no idea what would constitute "unusual". Maybe a M249 with a bag of dildos dangling where the magazine should go? That would indeed be unusual.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:00   #799
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Beats me. Any functional firearm is considered dangerous when loaded, and I have no idea what would constitute "unusual". Maybe a M240 with a bag of dildos dangling where the magazine should go? That would indeed be unusual.
The M240 is belt fed and has no magazine.

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Old 09-05-2014, 10:57   #800
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Oh wow, I've been out of the game for too long. I had to double check the COEI and BII lists in the -10, and sure enough it's only the SAW that has the mag bag
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Old 09-05-2014, 15:40   #801
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That's a belt bag for the SAW, or AR with belt feed conversion.
Exactly.

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Old 09-05-2014, 19:39   #802
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The whole "unusual" bit about arms is a nonsense because a person has a right to possess unusual arms. A genuine war hammer and battle axe are unusual weapons, but they most definitely would qualify as arms. But I mean they are not arms found in the average home. Most people don't have a medieval war hammer or battle axe lying around.

Speak for yourself. There's nothing unusual about "historic" weapons types in the home. (Until I finish recovering from shoulder surgery, the sharps will have to serve in lieu of the blunts.)
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Old 09-05-2014, 21:18   #803
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Speak for yourself. There's nothing unusual about "historic" weapons types in the home. (Until I finish recovering from shoulder surgery, the sharps will have to serve in lieu of the blunts.)
That is why handguns were invented.

You can still use both, if you insist.

When you said "sharps", I thought you were going old school on me.

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Old 09-05-2014, 22:14   #804
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I was giving him a (deserved) hard time, JFTFOI. I get the feeling he hasn't kept up with the latest fads in CQB hand tools; e.g. the 'hawks, adaptive breaching tools, and various over-sized choppers that are currently supplementing the guys' firearms load-out down range. Almost all of it is positively medieval. Some of it makes battle axes and war hammers look tame.
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Old 10-11-2014, 16:46   #805
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NICS Checks Show Gun Purchases Strong in 2014

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/ar...g-in-2014.aspx

Thus far in 2014, there have been 8.33 million checks for the purchase of firearms, compared to 8.29 million for the same period in 2012, and smaller numbers in previous years.
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Old 10-12-2014, 06:35   #806
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The number of checks will grow by a major number if the statists get their wishes for universal background checks and eliminate the right to conduct a transfer of private property among free men.
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Old 11-05-2014, 16:40   #807
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Initiative 594 passed in Washington state. It is a very draconian "universal background checks" bill. Basically makes it where say letting your friend shoot your guns at a range is illegal. Now similar referendums are being planned for Oregon, Arizona, Maine, etc...
See my post here. I hate it as much as you but here's the portion relevant to what you're speaking of:

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Certain other temporary transfers of a firearm would also not require a background check. These include temporary transfers between spouses, and temporary transfers for use at a shooting range, in a competition, or for performances. A temporary transfer to a person under age eighteen for hunting, sporting, or education would not require a background check. Other temporary transfers for lawful hunting also would not require a background check.
Other links are in the post referenced.
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Old 11-05-2014, 17:42   #808
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WA Initiative 594

For those interested in WA HI 594 -- links below to Washington State legislature page - including an analysis described as follows:

"This analysis was prepared by non-partisan legislative staff for the use of legislative members in their deliberations. This analysis is not a part of the legislation nor does it constitute a statement of legislative intent."

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...0JUDI%2014.pdf

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...=594#documents
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Old 11-05-2014, 21:15   #809
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For those interested in WA HI 594 -- links below to Washington State legislature page - including an analysis described as follows:

"This analysis was prepared by non-partisan legislative staff for the use of legislative members in their deliberations. This analysis is not a part of the legislation nor does it constitute a statement of legislative intent."

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...0JUDI%2014.pdf

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...=594#documents
Thanks for that; devil in the details. Whoa, what a piece of shit. Am I ever glad I don't live out there.
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:23   #810
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Be vigilant as it may be coming to a your state at some point.
Oh yeah.
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