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Old 01-04-2019, 19:02   #16
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There are too many people on this earth now, The population in 2050 is estimated to be @ 12-13 BILLION. Can the planet support that increase? People will want more goods and services, what happens when they can't even get the basic minimum to survive? Chaos, Riots, civil unrest, insurgency, war? tom kelly
I read another one of these scientist that 11 billion is the breaking point but then again their are nearly as many people in India and China as their was in the entire world in the 70's I wonder what the breaking point was he predicted for those two countries alone.......Soylent Green s coming

Well modern medicine can only handle so much....is the biblical plagues source? overpopulation?
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Old 01-04-2019, 21:13   #17
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There are too many people on this earth now, The population in 2050 is estimated to be @ 12-13 BILLION. Can the planet support that increase? People will want more goods and services, what happens when they can't even get the basic minimum to survive? Chaos, Riots, civil unrest, insurgency, war? tom kelly
It alarms me that as a standard we equate growth with success vs sustainability as a priority. One talk that influenced me was Buckminster Fuller and his concept of spaceship earth...a finite orb whose energy comes from the sun.
From his book “Operating Manual For Spaceship Earth” from 1968. Buckminster, an architect invented the geodesic dome and the dymaxion car as well as contributing to structural knowledge.
Manual: http://designsciencelab.com/resource...gManual_BF.pdf
Car: https://www.bfi.org/about-fuller/big...d/dymaxion-car
Buckminster Fuller: https://www.bfi.org/about-fuller/biography
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Old 01-04-2019, 21:20   #19
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It alarms me that as a standard we equate growth with success vs sustainability as a priority. One talk that influenced me was Buckminster Fuller and his concept of spaceship earth...a finite orb whose energy comes from the sun.
If that plays, then our sun has its ebbs & flows as well, and I don't just mean solar cycle in the toilet to piss-off us radio folks.

I'm willing to be corrected, but I was taught that a very long time ago, we were a pretty big effin' ice cube for awhile. Then... we started melting as ice cubes are wont to do. It seems we still are. Is it warming? Or just physics?
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To para phrase Buckminster ‘we have what we have and their won’t be any resupply’.
Badger you got me curious, I’m picking up there have been 5 ice ages (the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, Karoo Ice Age, and the current Quaternary Ice Age). Add in some Krakatoaes, magnetic shifts, or asteroids...there have been some ups and downs in temperatures.

^^ Thanks for the reminder that is something we can do something about.
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