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Gingrich Calls for Deportation of Muslims
Newt Gingrich is calling for the deportation of Muslims if they believe in Sharia. According to one poll, over 51% of US Muslims want the choice of being governed by Sharia. That is 1.5 to 3.5 million Muslims (estimates of total Muslims in America range from 3 to 7 million; it is probably higher).
How do you determine if a Muslim believes in Sharia? The same way our government can identify a 'bad' Muslim from a 'good' Muslim? How is that working out? How is that working for Europe?
Newt, ISLAM is incompatible with western civilization. Sharia is the path, or political and legal plan for society, mandated by Islam. It is derived from the Quran and Sunnah. Political and religious Islam cannot be separated, though our elected and military leaders continue to propagate this fantasy.
ALL immigration of Muslims to the United States should be ceased indefinitely and non-citizen Muslims should be deported.
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“Let me start where I am coming from and let me be as blunt and direct as I can be — western civilization is in a war. We should frankly test every person here who is of a Muslim background, and if they believe in Sharia, they should be deported,” Gingrich said. “Sharia is incompatible with western civilization. Modern Muslims who have given up Sharia — glad to have them as citizens. Perfectly happy to have them next door. But we need to be fairly relentless about who our enemies are.”
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Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world
The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society
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07-15-2016, 08:48
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That's exactly what needs to be said!
and done.
Assimilate or leave! That's the choice you have.
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07-15-2016, 09:49
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Originally Posted by SF-TX
Newt Gingrich is calling for the deportation of Muslims if they believe in Sharia. According to one poll, over 51% of US Muslims want the choice of being governed by Sharia. That is 1.5 to 3.5 million Muslims (estimates of total Muslims in America range from 3 to 7 million; it is probably higher).
How do you determine if a Muslim believes in Sharia? The same way our government can identify a 'bad' Muslim from a 'good' Muslim? How is that working out? How is that working for Europe?
Newt, ISLAM is incompatible with western civilization. Sharia is the path, or political and legal plan for society, mandated by Islam. It is derived from the Quran and Sunnah. Political and religious Islam cannot be separated, though our elected and military leaders continue to propagate this fantasy.
ALL immigration of Muslims to the United States should be ceased indefinitely and non-citizen Muslims should be deported.
Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world
The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society
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That's sure to bring out the "that's not who we are" speech. Well I know who the F*** I am and I agree with this 100%. We either get a handle on this soon or we are destined to become the shithole that all these muslims are leaving behind.
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07-15-2016, 09:54
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Assimilate or leave!
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That is the answer at its basest level. There should be no other choices that need to be made. Follow our rules and laws or go back to places that honor yours. You came here...play by our rules or go home.
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07-15-2016, 15:00
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Politically impossible to implement in the United States or Western Europe.
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07-15-2016, 15:23
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The Hell with assimilate, just leave.
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07-15-2016, 15:39
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And once again the Pres gets on the air to defend the poor muzzies and prevent them from coming to harm for the acts of a few nonmuslims. Funny how they aren't muslim to him if they are terrorists.
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07-15-2016, 16:39
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Politically impossible to implement in the United States or Western Europe.
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Yes, even though the terror attacks on Ft. Hood, the Boston Marathon, San Bernadino and Orlando all involved US citizens. Under the Obama administration drones/robots have been used to kill US citizens ( though clearly bad guys) abroad and recently in Dallas. While we need to play " Cowboys and ISIS" ASAP, IMHO the precedent of deporting US citizens is a slippery slope, especially if the Hildabeast wins in November.
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07-15-2016, 20:00
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Newt Gingrich is calling for the deportation of Muslims if they believe in Sharia
I'm in, when do we start?
I like Newt, most of the time......
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07-15-2016, 21:39
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Switzerland has an "assimilate or leave" policy that weeds out those who don't or won't integrate into Swiss society. Some of the reasons to deny citizenship seems rather arbitrary - like the fellow who wore sweatpants in public who was deemed unfit for citizenship.
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Muslim Girls Denied Swiss Citizenship for Refusing to Swim with Boys
Swiss authorities rejected the naturalisation application of two Muslim girls who refused to take school swimming lessons with boys.
According to Swiss media, the girls aged 12 and 14, living in the Swiss city of Basel had applied for Swiss citizenship several months ago, but their request was denied.
The girls cited religious reasons for not participating in compulsory swimming lessons at their school with males in the pool at the same time.
Basel authorities reported that their application for naturalisation was rejected because the sisters did not comply with the school curriculum.
“Whoever doesn’t fulfill these conditions violates the law and therefore cannot be naturalized,” Stefan Wehrle, president of the naturalisation committee, told TV station SRF on Tuesday.
The case shows how those who don’t follow Swiss rules and customs will not be able to get Swiss citizenship, even if they have lived in the country for a long time, are fluent in one of the national languages — German, French or Italian — and are gainfully employed.
The Alpine country has proved to be strict in its laws of integration.
On Wednesday, a Muslim father from Geneva was fined for refusing to allow his daughters to take swimming lessons at school.
In 2012, a family was fined $1,500 for forbidding their daughters to participate in swimming classes. The matter eventually ended up in the Supreme Court, which ruled that no dispensations from swimming lessons should be made on religious grounds.
Muslim school in UK denies claims it suspended pupil for speaking to member of opposite sex
In April, members of an immigrant family in the Basel area were denied citizenship because they wore sweatpants around town and did not greet a passersby, which according to the naturalisation board proved to be a sure sign that they were not sufficiently assimilated.
The same month, a ruling that male Muslim students at a school in northern Switzerland will no longer have to shake hands with their female teachers caused an uproar in the country.
Christoph Eymann, who heads the Swiss Conference of Cantonal Ministers of Education insisted, “We cannot tolerate that women in the public service are treated differently from men.”
The incident was widely publicised and as a result, authorities suspended the naturalisation request from the boys’ father, who was an imam at the Basel mosque.
Swiss law expects candidates for citizenship to prove that they are well assimilated in their communities and respect local customs and traditions.
In Switzerland, local town or village councils make initial decisions on naturalisation applications. If they decide a candidate is not an upstanding member of the community, the application will be denied and not forwarded to canton (state) and federal authorities for further processing.
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07-16-2016, 07:07
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That's sure to bring out the "that's not who we are" speech. Well I know who the F*** I am and I agree with this 100%. We either get a handle on this soon or we are destined to become the shithole that all these muslims are leaving behind.
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Well, that didn't take long.
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Friday from the White House while commenting on the terrorist attack in Nice, France, President Barack Obama, without naming him, went after former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), who said last night in the wake of the attack, that Muslims who believe in Sharia Law should be “deported.”
Obama said, “We will win this fight by staying true to our values, values of pluralism and rule of law and diversity and freedoms, like the freedom of religion, freedom of speech and assembly, the very freedoms that the people of Nice were celebrating last night on Bastille Day. In the wake of last night’s attacks, we’ve heard more suggestions that all Muslims in America be targeted, tested for their beliefs, some deported or jailed. And the very suggestion is repugnant and an affront to everything that we stand for as Americans.”
“We cannot give in to fear or turn on each other or sacrifice our way of life,” he continued. “We cannot let ourselves be divided by religion, because that’s exactly what the terrorists want. We should never do their work for them. Here in the United States, our freedoms, including freedom of religion, help keep us strong and safe, and we have to be vigilant and defend our security and our freedoms.”
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07-16-2016, 07:07
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Switzerland has an "assimilate or leave" policy that weeds out those who don't or won't integrate into Swiss society. Some of the reasons to deny citizenship seems rather arbitrary - like the fellow who wore sweatpants in public who was deemed unfit for citizenship.
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Leave to? Germany? Sweden? The EU is destroying itself, in a very big way.
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07-16-2016, 07:10
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Leave to? Germany? Sweden? The EU is destroying itself, in a very big way.
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Assuaging their white guilt by condemning their children and future generations to a life of misery.
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07-16-2016, 07:59
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Assuaging their white guilt by condemning their children and future generations to a life of misery.
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America is drinking the very same Kool-Aid from the same EU well.......
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07-16-2016, 08:57
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Basel authorities reported that their application for naturalisation was rejected because the sisters did not comply with the school curriculum.
“Whoever doesn’t fulfill these conditions violates the law and therefore cannot be naturalized,” Stefan Wehrle, president of the naturalisation committee, told TV station SRF on Tuesday.
The case shows how those who don’t follow Swiss rules and customs will not be able to get Swiss citizenship, even if they have lived in the country for a long time, are fluent in one of the national languages — German, French or Italian — and are gainfully employed.
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Interesting firearms policy Switzerland maintains, may be the one country that survives the migration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_po...in_Switzerland
Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 34 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia can be kept at home as part of the military service. However, it is generally not permitted to keep army-issued ammunition, but compatible ammunition purchased for privately owned guns is permitted. At the end of military service period the previously used gun can be converted to a privately owned gun after a weapon acquisition permit has been granted (fully automatic weapons will be rebuilt into semi-automatic ones).
Switzerland thus has a relatively high gun ownership rate (31%-61% in 2005, but declining).[1] Current research from 2014 estimates gun ownership rate around 25%, which is lower than most surrounding countries.[2] Since 2008, Switzerland has complied with European Union gun control requirements.[3] Automatic weapons are banned. In recent times political opposition parties and others have expressed a desire for tighter gun regulations, in response to a recent series of shootings involving army weapons.[4] A referendum in February 2011 rejected stricter gun control.[5][6]
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