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Old 06-03-2013, 09:28   #16
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Since this thread has evolved from merely recognizing that the President was largely AWOL on the night of the Benghazi attack - as he subsequently pushed a false narrative (AKA a damn lie) about a YouTube video causing the attack...to recognizing that Barry and the Senate have put in place some very powerful enablers...

Maybe this is as good a place as any to touch on one of Barry's primary enablers...

They lied about Bengahzi, lied about ObamaCare, lied about the IRS, lied about Fast and Furious, lied about James Rosen and spying on journalists merely engaged in journalism...etc., etc., etc.,...if you're not disgusted you are not looking very hard.

Eric Holder's Long History Of Lying To Congress

Investors Business Daily
05/31/2013 07:09 PM ET

Scandal: Before he lied to Congress while under oath about what he knew about targeting reporters, he lied about Fast and Furious. As early as the New Black Panthers case, Eric Holder had a problem with the truth.

That the House Judiciary Committee is investigating whether Attorney General Eric Holder lied under oath during his May 15 testimony on Department of Justice (DOJ) surveillance of reporters comes as no surprise. People have forgotten about the New Black Panther case, perhaps the most clear-cut case of voter suppression and intimidation ever. On Election Day 2008, New Black Panther Party members in military garb were videotaped intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia polling place.

The slam-dunk prosecution of these thugs was dropped by Holder's Justice Department. When asked why, Holder, on March 1, 2011, testified before the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies that the "decisions made in the New Black Panther Party case were made by career attorneys in the department."

Holder lied, for the decisions were made by political appointees. J. Christian Adams, a former career DOJ attorney in the Voting Rights Section, testified before the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that it was Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli, an Obama political appointee, who overruled a unanimous recommendation for prosecution by Adams and his associates.

Documents obtained by Judicial Watch and a ruling by Judge Reggie B. Walton of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in response to a suit brought by the group show that "political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ's dismissal of claims in that case."

Fast forward to Fast and Furious, the Obama administration's program to "walk" guns across the border and into the hands of Mexican drug cartels in furtherance of its gun control agenda.

"When did you first know about the program officially I believe called Fast and Furious? To the best of your knowledge, what date?" House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa asked Holder in sworn testimony on May 3, 2011. "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks," was Holder's response.

Holder lied: A July 2010 memo shows Michael Walther, head of the National Drug Intelligence Center, told Holder that straw buyers in Fast and Furious "are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to the Mexican drug trafficking cartels."

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said other documents indicate Holder began receiving weekly briefings on the program from the National Drug Intelligence Center on or before that date.

In an exchange with Sen. Pat Leahy on Nov. 8, 2011, Holder admitted his May 3 testimony was inaccurate when he said he knew about Fast and Furious for a "few weeks." He later changed that to a "couple months."

But the memo from Walther referring to Fast and Furious in detail was sent directly to Holder on July 5, 2010 — not a "couple months" before he testified in May.

No surprise then on May 15, 2013, before the House Judiciary Committee, Holder lied when he said: "In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material, this is not something I've been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy."

He personally signed off on James Rosen's warrant. Holder's defenders say the statement is technically correct because he never meant to prosecute Rosen, only to find the leaker. If so, then he lied to a federal judge.

Similarly, Holder's testimony to the House Judiciary Committee that he had recused himself from the Associated Press leak investigation that led to the blanket seizure of call records is not backed up by a formal recusal letter, which is required under such circumstances.

So we have at least four counts of lying to Congress by the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.

When did the lies begin? Looks like right after he took the oath of his office.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...ess.htm?p=full
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:38   #17
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The danger has never been the inexperienced & disdainful single individual occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It's his crew; always has been.
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Old 06-03-2013, 16:01   #18
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The danger has never been the inexperienced & disdainful single individual occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It's his crew; always has been.
or...his "Posse"...same same...
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Old 06-04-2013, 01:20   #19
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or...his "Posse"...same same...
Nothing like surrounding yourself with people that can finish or cover up the job you started.
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Old 06-04-2013, 13:59   #20
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100 pages?

100 pages...really? The folks in DC can't even draft a bill that is only 100 pages!
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Old 06-04-2013, 14:26   #21
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100 pages...really? The folks in DC can't even draft a bill that is only 100 pages!
The rest of them are on those secret e-mail accounts the WH and it's minions are using to float around outside the law.
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Old 09-13-2013, 19:41   #22
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An interesting read from Judicial Watch - systematic failures in leadership resulting in the deaths of brave Americans - still no accountability.

What did Obama and Hillary know and when did they know it...

Report at link below:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...Rpt09Sep13.pdf

Judicial Watch Special Report: The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012

A Judicial Watch Special Report:
On The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012
Unanswered Questions and the Quest for Accountability
From the Obama Administration

September 9, 2013

UPDATED FROM JANUARY 2013
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Old 09-13-2013, 20:19   #23
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An interesting read from Judicial Watch - systematic failures in leadership resulting in the deaths of brave Americans - still no accountability.

What did Obama and Hillary know and when did they know it...

Report at link below:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...Rpt09Sep13.pdf

Judicial Watch Special Report: The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012

A Judicial Watch Special Report:
On The Anniversary of the Benghazi Attack of September 11, 2012
Unanswered Questions and the Quest for Accountability
From the Obama Administration

September 9, 2013

UPDATED FROM JANUARY 2013
Excellent article, the part about hiring your enemies enemy for security, well it sounds exactly like what's happening now in Syria. For the life of me, I can't understand why O want to support those ass holes. I'm starting to think he's associated.
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I've been wondering when some of these guys were going to come out of the closet. Guess they need to retire first.

The terrorists who attacked the U.S. consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi on September 11, 2012 used cell phones, seized from State Department personnel during the attacks, and U.S. spy agencies overheard them contacting more senior terrorist leaders to report on the success of the operation, multiple sources confirmed to Fox News.

The disclosure is important because it adds to the body of evidence establishing that senior U.S. officials in the Obama administration knew early on that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, and not a spontaneous protest over an anti-Islam video that had gone awry, as the administration claimed for several weeks after the attacks.

Eric Stahl, who recently retired as a major in the U.S. Air Force, served as commander and pilot of the C-17 aircraft that was used to transport the corpses of the four casualties from the Benghazi attacks – then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods – as well as the assault’s survivors from Tripoli to the safety of an American military base in Ramstein, Germany.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...cmp=latestnews

Should get interesting if Trey starts to subpoena the guys on the ground, it'd be nice to hear from them.
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The Majority Report is released today and it will highlight the significant differences between the administration's private and public communications. LINK

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Secretary Clinton's Statements to Egyptian Prime Minister Kandil at 3:04 p.m 9/12/2011.:

"We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack – not a protest. . . . Based on the information we saw today we believe the group that claimed responsibility for this was affiliated with al Qaeda."

E-mail from State Department press officer in embassy in Tripoli, Libya:

"Colleagues, I mentioned to Andy this morning, and want to share with all of you, our view at Embassy Tripoli that we must be cautious in our local messaging with regard to the inflammatory film trailer, adapting it to Libyan conditions. . . . Relatively few [Facebook comments and tweets] have even mentioned the inflammatory video. So if we post messaging about the video specifically, we may draw unwanted attention to it. And it is becoming increasingly clear that the series of events in Benghazi was much more terrorist attack than a protest which escalated into violence. It is our opinion that in our messaging, we want to distinguish, not conflate, the events in other countries with this well-planned attack by militant extremists. I have discussed this with Charge Hicks and he shares PAS's view."
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I have strong reservations about the Republicans and the Democrats each having a Benghazi website on government servers and using said websites to sling mud on the peoples' dime.

http://benghazi.house.gov/
http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/
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Old 06-28-2016, 14:04   #27
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I have strong reservations about the Republicans and the Democrats each having a Benghazi website on government servers and using said websites to sling mud on the peoples' dime.

http://benghazi.house.gov/
http://democrats-benghazi.house.gov/
Great example of why folks benefit from shrinking BIG government - both sets of hogs !
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Even at 0300, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
C'mon Director Comey, where's that referral for indictment?

For the Dems a few of the inconvenient truths are that in the past year new interviewees (many) include SOCEUR (MG Repass, re CIF-related events) as well as the Commander of that CIF, the C-17 pilot, 1 of 2 Special Opns personnel who went to Benghazi from Tripoli... and the Hillarymail-Gate IT guy Pagliano (wonder if he took the 5th on this one too).

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Ahmed Abu Khattalah trial

future jihadis will see just how our court system works for or against them...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.6a253bc1b8ff

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...002-story.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1CF2H1

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...urt/712401001/
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"Deep State"

More and more the 'deep state' from progressive agenda!

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