03-28-2018, 07:47
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I bring to you, the AR15 Assault Bat with a large capacity magazine, bayonet lugs, and two handed grips.
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You need one with Long Spikes, for those nice, deep, puncture wounds to the skull area.....
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03-29-2018, 07:36
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Originally Posted by NurseTim
Would arming teachers, those willing to take the training, work, I don’t know. But to expect them to have the skill set of the QP’s here is mind boggling. Does this mean they shouldn’t be armed, I can’t say, I’m one of the sheep.
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See, this is an important aspect that I believe is completely misunderstood by some who oppose allowing teachers to be armed on school grounds. I can't speak for the whole group of folks calling to eliminate the 'gun free zone' mandate for schools, but I personally have no expectation that arming teachers means that they would be responsible for hunting down a shooter attacking a school. Rather, my desire is to give those school faculty members that WANT to have a means of protecting themselves and those immediately around them the opportunity to do so, instead of having no other option than sacrificing their own lives as a bullet trap in an effort to save the lives of the kids in their care. Allowing those who qualify for a concealed carry permit in their state of residence to carry a handgun on school grounds (you know, the way it used to be prior to 1990) simply provides citizens concerned with self-defense a means to effectively counter a school shooter threatening them, no more.
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03-29-2018, 16:39
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Originally Posted by NurseTim
Would arming teachers, those willing to take the training, work, I don’t know. But to expect them to have the skill set of the QP’s here is mind boggling. Does this mean they shouldn’t be armed, I can’t say, I’m one of the sheep.
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Arming teachers does two things, one: Effectivity ends the "gun free zone" in schools. That in itself give the spineless little cowards notice. And two: allows them to defend themselves.
Nothing more and nothing less.
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03-29-2018, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Arming teachers does two things, one: Effectivity ends the "gun free zone" in schools. That in itself give the spineless little cowards notice. And two: allows them to defend themselves.
Nothing more and nothing less.
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The high probability of an immediate armed response to hostility works wonders as a deterrent - statistics have consistently shown that violent crime declines after concealed carry permits are allowed.
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03-29-2018, 16:48
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The high probability of an immediate armed response to hostility works wonders as a deterrent - statistics have consistently shown that violent crime declines after concealed carry permits are allowed.
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Dat's a fact Jack!
You're really not going to attempt to argue with logic and facts now are you? Liberals will have none of that!
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03-29-2018, 16:53
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Dat's a fact Jack!
You're really not going to attempt to argue with logic and facts now are you? Liberals will have none of that!
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I've been put on the ivory tower's naughty list before for this very reason.
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03-29-2018, 17:03
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Tombstone Unified posts warning sign that staff is armed
This is "progressive"......
Waytt Earp is pleased.
I may send those folks an email with an offer to train any "teacher" for free.
Tombstone Unified posts warning sign that staff is armed
By: Tucson News Now
Posted: Mar 29 2018 05:11AM MST
Updated: Mar 29 2018 08:14AM MS
TOMBSTONE, Ariz. (TUCSON NEWS NOW) - In the wake of last month's school shooting in Florida, people in Tombstone are taking matters into their own hands.
As Tombstone Unified School District students walked onto their campuses this week, a shocking sign could be seen posted on the surrounding fences.
The signs read, " WARNING: Some T.U.S.D staff may be armed and will use whatever force necessary to protect our students."
While the extent to which teachers and school staff are armed is unknown, the sign has been the source of controversy for both residents and visitors alike.
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/ari...staff-is-armed
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03-29-2018, 17:17
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
This is "progressive"......
Waytt Earp is pleased.
I may send those folks an email with an offer to train any "teacher" for free.
Tombstone Unified posts warning sign that staff is armed
By: Tucson News Now
Posted: Mar 29 2018 05:11AM MST
Updated: Mar 29 2018 08:14AM MS
TOMBSTONE, Ariz. (TUCSON NEWS NOW) - In the wake of last month's school shooting in Florida, people in Tombstone are taking matters into their own hands.
As Tombstone Unified School District students walked onto their campuses this week, a shocking sign could be seen posted on the surrounding fences.
The signs read, " WARNING: Some T.U.S.D staff may be armed and will use whatever force necessary to protect our students."
While the extent to which teachers and school staff are armed is unknown, the sign has been the source of controversy for both residents and visitors alike.
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/ari...staff-is-armed
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Oh, I really doubt that there is a controversy with the residents. It's the Snow Birders who get upset. I've seen grandma's sporting real Colt SA Army .45LCs there and wearing period dress. I don't have a Western gun but, if I get one, I will defiantly wear it OC in Tombstone!
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03-30-2018, 06:47
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If only Democrat Joe Biden hadn't introduced the Gun Free School Zone act in 1990, perhaps we wouldn't have to be listening to juveniles tell adults how we should live our lives and put up with their rants.
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03-30-2018, 07:11
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Originally Posted by bblhead672
If only Democrat Joe Biden hadn't introduced the Gun Free School Zone act in 1990, perhaps we wouldn't have to be listening to juveniles tell adults how we should live our lives and put up with their rants.
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I wonder if he will advocate for a warning shot from armed personnel in schools?
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