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Old 05-24-2011, 13:38   #31
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More than happy to talk with biographies of living persons noticeboard, too funny, we can forward the Military Records, post them as attachments if they like.


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Old 05-24-2011, 14:09   #32
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Looks like it's snowballing:

http://www.valoannetwork.org/securit...ord-questioned

http://www.fightlegendsclothing.com/blogs/?p=740

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Old 05-24-2011, 14:15   #33
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Old 05-24-2011, 16:22   #34
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Security Expert’s SF Record Questioned by Bryant Jordan

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Security Expert’s SF Record Questioned
May 24, 2011

Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

Jess "Skip" Hall, founder of a Birmingham, Ala.-based security and training company called "Hollow Point," doesn't mince words about wanna-bes who pretend to be more than they are. He uses the language of a former Green Beret and Vietnam combat veteran.

"There are many fakes and so-called experts in everything today," he says in the opening page to his blog, "starting [with] the individual in the White House."

On his website, Hall lists a number of qualifications and experiences beneath his photo, including "5th SF SOG A Team Leader, Vietnam." Another page includes an image of an "unofficial" 5th SOG patch from Vietnam -- a skull wearing a Green Beret -- and beneath it reads: "Skip Hall's Unit Patch."

But there's a problem with Hall's apparent outrage over phonies: He might be one too.

A retired Green Beret says Hall's Special Forces and Vietnam combat claims do not check out.


"He was a clerk typist and he spent all his time in Korea," said Jeff "JD" Hinton, who routinely ferrets out and exposes phony war heroes on his website, ProfessionalSoldiers.com. "He never went to Vietnam."

Hall's military records, copies of which he provided to Military.com, show he was initially trained as a repairman for crypto equipment at Fort Monmouth, N.J., in 1966. Some months later, he was reassigned to Fort Dix, N.J., and trained as a clerk typist.

Hall did not respond to Military.com's requests for an interview or comment. As of late Monday afternoon, his blog page and the Hollow Point website were down. A message on the Hollow Point page stated it was removed because information had been added to the site without Hall's approval.

"We express our appoligies [sic] for any misinformation this may have caused. Mr. Hall does not represent anyone in the military and makes no representation that he was previously affiliated or part of the U.S. Army, Special Forces or any other organization or agency."

In addition to Vietnam and Korea, Hall also claims to have served in the Middle East, to have worked as a Defense Department contractor, and that -- at 63 -- he was the world's oldest Mixed Martial Arts fighter.

And he was the oldest fighter until 71-year-old Dr. John J. "Gray Wolf" Williams came on the scene a few years ago.

At the time Hall retired from mixed martial arts in March 2008, he was profiled by NBC Sports writer Mike Chiappetta who mentioned Hall's combat experience. It was that article that put Hinton on the hunt for Hall's official records.

"One of our own [veterans] found him, actually found the article from MSNBC, and that started the ball rolling," Hinton said. "We've been looking into his past and did the FOIA [Freedom of Information Act request] and it came back with 'Clerk Typist' " for his Army job.

Hinton offers no opinion on any of the other achievements that Hall claims; he only cares about is Hall's claims regarding the Special Forces and combat in Vietnam.

Hinton, who retired from Army Special Forces as a master sergeant, uses official sources and personal connections in the Special Forces community to uncover phonies. Late last year, he exposed William G. Hillar, an instructor at the Monterey Institute of International Studies and widely known expert in human trafficking, as a fraud. Hillar had claimed to be a retired Army Special Forces colonel.

Hillar pleaded guilty in March to a charge of lying about his military background and experience on his application for work at the University of Oregon. He could get 20 years in jail when he returns to court for sentencing in July.


Hinton said he was not the only one investigating Hall's background. The Alabama man had also come under the scrutiny of Chuck and Mary Schantag of P.O.W. Network.

"Someone asks, we file for records, we pass those back and what happens happens," the Schantags said in an email to Military.com.

They said the reports of possible phonies go up and down, depending on the season.

"50 phony SEALs a day for awhile," they said. "Slowed a bit, but Memorial Day is just around the corner and reports will skyrocket again."

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Old 05-24-2011, 17:17   #35
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First of all, I'd like to thank you for your service to the country. I have great respect for everyone in our nation's military, particularly those on the front lines like Special Forces troops.

I read thru the thread you provided as well as some of the stories that are linked off from it. It certainly seems as though you are correct, and that Mr. Hall misrepresented himself and that part of his story to me. I always strive to maintain accuracy, but due to time constraints there are times when we have to take the subject of our profiles at their word. This seems to be a time I got burned as a result.

Unfortunately, the story was written in 2008 and I no longer work for NBC Sports, so I can not independently put in a correction. They have an email address to which you can address your concerns, and hopefully someone there will get back to you.

That address is: nbcsportshelp@nbcuni.com

I hope that works, but if not, at least it seems as though you and many others are doing a good job of discrediting his claim. I apologize for the error.

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Old 05-26-2011, 19:40   #36
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LOL, someone has been busy on wiki.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_Hall_(MMA))
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Mr. Hall served in the U.S. Army, stationed in Korea as a Clerk Typist. Mr. Hall is also a commercial, instrument rated pilot and was an IBM National Sales Manager as well.

Skip was an recordholding powerlifter for the WABDL in Bench Press and Deadlift - all after the age of 50. Mr. Hall also competed in boxing during his younger years and later as a full-contact karate participant through the association with his instructors Greg Young (boxing), GrandMaster Rick Weems, David Ferguson, Grandmaster Pak (Korea) and Grandmaster He Ill Cho. Mr. Hall became interested in MMA in the early 1990s and became associated with Gracie Jiu-Jitsu via Carlson Gracie Jr., and trained with Conan Silvera and Marcello Silvera in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Hall cross-trained in Taekwondo, Hapkido, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, American Kenpo and boxing.

Mr. Hall judged numerous UFC events for SEG Sports throughout the U.S. and was invited to do so by ZUFFA at the very first UFC in Atlantic City, NJ. He was also a judge for Don "The Dragon" Wilson productions in California in the 1990's. During that time he authored the, "ASSAULT and RAPE MINIMIZATION (ARM) Program" which he continues to teach today to many non-profit,Christian and religious organizations. He also continues to teach numerous law enforcement programs, a combined martial arts program called, "Combat Martial Arts", and other real-life issue programs to Christian organizations and participants. Skip is available and routinely provides motivational speeches to numerous organizations about his military experience and athletic endeavors.

Mr. Hall is a special tactics instructor for international force protection contractors, NRA and FBI firearms isntruction, close combat techniques and Professional Rescuer skills using his experience from the military, as a currently employed DoD Contractor in the middle east, NRA Instructor, American Red Cross Instructor and professional MMA career. Skip Hall is a personal bodyguard and executive protection agent and trainer for high risk, high visibility clients and contracts.

[edit] Fraudulent Military Service Claims

Mr. Hall claimed he served in the U.S. Army Special Forces during the Vietnam war, as a "5th SF SOG A Team Leader."- a leadership position in a legendary special operations unit that conducted clandestine missions throughout the conflict.

Attention to Mr. Hall's Special Forces claims arose due to a profile written in 2008 by NBC Sports writer Mike Chiappetta. That article led to a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request for his official records by Special Forces veterans who were not convinced of Mr. Hall's claims. The FOIA report clearly stated Mr. Hall did not serve in the U.S. Army Special Forces, nor did he ever deploy to Vietnam. His service was as a 71B (Clerk Typist), stationed in Korea.

Some of the same Special Forces veterans were also involved in the earlier outing of William G. Hillar, an instructor at the Monterey Instititute of International Studies, who was later arrested by the FBI on fraudulent charges. Hillar later pleaded guilty to the charges in federal court.

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Old 05-26-2011, 20:53   #37
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Old 05-31-2011, 21:23   #38
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Seems skippy's own "people" have now figured out Skip is a liar and fraud........

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....1823209&page=1
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Seems skippy's own "people" have now figured out Skip is a liar and fraud........

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....1823209&page=1
Funny stuff, Skippy and his lovely bride are really getting wore out on thet site. I guess neither of them were overly polite to folks.
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Serves the SKUMBAG right. Welcome to the real world ass hole.
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Old 06-01-2011, 15:27   #41
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Skippy's Profile at wilderness-survival.net

Check out Skip's profile at wilderness-survival.net

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Old 06-01-2011, 15:30   #42
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Check out Skip's profile at wilderness-survival.net

Skip Hall Profile

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lol Well, hell, we had him pegged wrong. He freed the oppressors! That's a whole new ball game...

What a wad...
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Old 06-01-2011, 17:02   #43
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I guess someone "hacked" his account and posted information that he didn't approve. Since he's the baddest grandfather on the planet.


http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...541#post290541

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...275#post289275
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For those of you @mixedmartialarts.com I've signed up on your forum and am waiting to post, when allowed. I've no problem answering questions concerning the spineless bottom feeding coward known as Skip Hall. My screen name there is the same as here. Team Sergeant

"Skip Hall exposed as fake combat veteran and fraud"

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Old 06-02-2011, 20:02   #45
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Ok, TS, I logged on to this "Survival site" because young troops were giving our boy an out ...because they'd screwed up their own DD214's thru neglect

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...Among-Us/page3

I suspect Skippy got on here because it is affiliated with the TV reality gig and he was hoping to impress with his credentials...too bad it didn't work out.
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