California Broadens Red Flag "laws"

Hand · 10-16-2019, 13:55

These "red flag" laws just keep getting better and better. Have they been challenged in court yet?

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California Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom signed 15 gun-related bills into law Friday, tightening the state's already-stringent Second Amendment restrictions.

One of the bills, which expands a so-called "red flag" law to allow co-workers, employers and educators to seek gun violence restraining orders against firearms owners they fear are a danger to themselves and others, was vetoed twice by Newsom's predecessor, Jerry Brown.

Newsom also signed a companion bill allowing the gun violence restraining orders to last one and five years, although the gun owners could petition to end those restrictions earlier. The bill also allows judges to issue search warrants at the same time as they grant the orders. The warrants can be used immediately if the gun owners are served with the relinquishment orders but fail to turn over the firearms or ammunition.

"California has outperformed the rest of the nation, because of our gun safety laws, in reducing the gun murder rate substantially compared to the national reduction," Newsom said as he signed the measures surrounded by state lawmakers. "No state does it as well or comprehensively as the state of California, and we still have a long way to go."

Between 1993 and 2017, the latest available, there was a 62 percent decline in the gun murder rate in California, nearly double the 34 percent nationally, Newsom said.

Co-workers who want to request a gun violence restraining order will have to have "substantial and regular interactions" with gun owners, and co-workers and school employees will need to get approval from their employers or school administrators before seeking a restraining order.

Those seeking the orders will be required to file sworn statements detailing their reasons for doing so.

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mark46th · 10-16-2019, 15:23

This won't end well. A lot of people are going to get screwed over by revenge minded exes...

Sohei · 10-16-2019, 16:05

One of the absolute worst laws ever passed in my lifetime was the Red Flag laws. Anything to do with them can only be worse than the original....

**Box** · 10-17-2019, 06:46

Wait - is someone saying that this law has already started failing?

...cool

Imagine how awesome it will be when the police become buried in an avalanche of vindictive red flag reports

cbtengr · 10-17-2019, 07:42

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Originally Posted by Box

Wait - is someone saying that this law has already started failing?

...cool

Imagine how awesome it will be when the police become buried in an avalanche of vindictive red flag reports

How about scary, how many people will end up like that lady down in Dallas? Shot in their own homes by the To Protect and To Serve officer sent to /disarm them.

**Box** · 10-17-2019, 08:19

...then we just start red-flagging the cops - whats good for the goose is good for the gander and all that jazz

I'm sure after a few hundred red-flag reports have been levied against the local cops and politicians, the Lautenberg Ammendment will have effectively put the entire Police Department out of business and there wont be anyone left to enforce red flag laws.

abc_123 · 10-17-2019, 11:00

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Originally Posted by mark46th

This won't end well. A lot of people are going to get screwed over by revenge minded exes...

Oh yeah. Start heading towards a divorce and you can kiss your guns goodbye.

EricV · 10-17-2019, 11:40

Heading for a divorce, I'd remove the weapons from my residence, except maybe some beater gun for self protection. If they ask you any questions, refuse to answer.

I do like the idea of red flagging the coppers. Yuk, yuk

mojaveman · 10-17-2019, 12:57

The firearm owners in California ain't seen nothin' yet.

While Newsome was the mayor of San Francisco he got every gun store there closed. He didn't tell anyone they couldn't have one but through a number of rules, regulations, fees, fines, etcetera, all of the doors eventually closed.

That is his plan for the entire state folks and with a Democratic majority in the government and population it's slowly going to happen.

bblhead672 · 10-18-2019, 08:31

I'd like to report a bunch of unstable individuals at the following address:
10th and L Streets
Sacramento, CA

Be careful, they have armed guards who are also unstable.