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Old 09-21-2013, 08:03   #1
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Gunmen storm Nairobi Mall, 15 killed: Red Cross

Gunmen storm Nairobi Mall, 15 killed: Red Cross

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98K03V20130921

"(Reuters) - Gunmen stormed a shopping mall in Nairobi on Saturday killing at least 15 people in what Kenya's government said might be a terrorist attack, and sending scores fleeing into shops, a cinema and onto the streets in search of safety...."

The story has a slide show that shows mostly the police is action.

When I first glanced at them it was hard to tell they were the police.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:05   #2
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Witness: Kenya mall attackers target non-Muslims

Witness: Kenya mall attackers target non-Muslims

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-21-08-48-19

"Elijah Kamau, who was at the mall at the time of the midday attack, said that the gunmen made a declaration that non-Muslims would be targeted.

"The gunmen told Muslims to stand up and leave. They were safe, and non-Muslims would be targeted," he said........"
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Old 09-21-2013, 18:22   #3
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http://news.yahoo.com/39-dead-kenya-...212623649.html

39 confirmed dead....RIP
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Old 09-21-2013, 18:27   #4
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Somalia would make a great replacement target for naval gunfire practice....and Dearborn Mi...samo samo
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Old 09-21-2013, 18:37   #5
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Its okay, don't worry, they were just Christians.

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Old 09-21-2013, 18:41   #6
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The insight here is obvious....even tho they were assumed to be all Kenyan's and then equally resp. for the troops in Somalis the divider is Islam....did the Muslim Kenyan's breathe a sigh of relief as they walked out?
Would they stand by while non Muslim Kenyan's were slaughtered as most Muslims do in every other pred. Islamic State?
Yes, if recent history is a teaching tool.
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Old 09-21-2013, 18:52   #7
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If the victims were Muslim, there'd be another squiggly red line drawn by King Obam-me.
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Old 09-21-2013, 19:00   #8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah2FoAxg8c

footage of the evacuation from RT
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Old 09-22-2013, 04:23   #9
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The insight here is obvious....even tho they were assumed to be all Kenyan's and then equally resp. for the troops in Somalis the divider is Islam....did the Muslim Kenyan's breathe a sigh of relief as they walked out?
Would they stand by while non Muslim Kenyan's were slaughtered as most Muslims do in every other pred. Islamic State?
Yes, if recent history is a teaching tool.
Sadly, I think you have it right. Rest in peace to the victims.
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Israeli forces join Kenya battle to end deadly mall siege

Israeli forces join Kenya battle to end deadly mall siege

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"NAIROBI — Kenyan troops backed by Israeli forces battled Sunday to end a siege in an upmarket shopping mall and free hostages held by Somali militants in an attack that has so far killed 59 people.

Sporadic gunfire could be heard as Kenyan security officials said they were attempting to kill or capture the remaining attackers and end the 26-hour-long bloodbath at the Westgate mall.

"The Israelis have just entered and they are rescuing the hostages and the injured," a Kenyan security source told AFP. The Israeli foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny its forces were involved......."
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Old 09-22-2013, 15:50   #11
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Interesting

Interesting

PJ media is reporting that 3 of the terrorists are from America. 2 from the Minneapolis-St Paul area and 1 from the Kansas City area by way of Washington State.

Nothing I could find on regular news. Something about this is based on tweeter links coming up and being taken down.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/22...-mall/?print=1

The names from the Somali forum

ahmed mohamed isse 22 y.o native, from saint paul minnesota,
abdifatah osman keenadiid. 24 y.o from minneapolis
gen mustafe noorudiin. 27 y.o from kansas city. MO
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Brought to you again, by the religion of peace.

Where is the moral outrage?

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Old 09-22-2013, 16:18   #13
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The names from the Somali forum

ahmed mohamed isse 22 y.o native, from saint paul minnesota,
abdifatah osman keenadiid. 24 y.o from minneapolis
gen mustafe noorudiin. 27 y.o from kansas city. MO[/QUOTE]

If this is valid information, and US citizens of Somali extract are known to go 'home' and carry out Jihad, then what is the reaction of the community in the US?
An outpouring of dissent against Jihad focused on non combatants? A serious effort to instruct the Muslim US Somali youth?
No, the mothers/fathers of the slain jihadi's will quietly take comfort in the fact that their dead sons are now Shaheed's....Holy Warriors promised heaven.
Local Imam's will offer comments at Friday prayer where the dead will be cast in a positive light thru reading verses that support becoming a Shaheed.
There will be no effort to either curb this type of expat activity or privately admonish it.
The 'moderate' Muslims will go about their business neither supporting nor decrying these acts.
Moderate Muslims are the petri dish that Jihadi's live within to rest, hide, and prosper in non Muslim countries.
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Old 09-22-2013, 16:40   #14
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Well

Well if this is true then the non-media "journalist" sources scooped the Lame Stream again.

Edited to add - just checked CNN and they have the story.
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Old 09-22-2013, 17:16   #15
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It's only a matter of time before we see this here.
In February 2010, a Virginia man named Anthony Joseph Tracy was arrested because of his close links to Al-Shabaab. By then, he had smuggled over 270 Somalis into the country through Mexico. The identities and locations of very few were known.

The Mexican government has also confirmed that al-Shabaab is taking advantage of the border. Its police have arrested and released members of al-Shabaab on their way to the U.S. before.

Another Somali jihadist group doing this same thing is Al-Ittihad Al-Islami. A Somali in San Antonio, Texas was arrested in March 2008 on immigration charges. From June 2006 to March 2008, he earned at least $3,000 for every single person he snuck across the border, making up to $75,000 in a single day.

He confirmed that he knew exactly what he was doing when he brought Al-Ittihad Al-Islami members into the U.S. His sentencing memo said “he believed they would fight against the U.S. if the jihad moved from overseas locations to the U.S. mainland.”
Can't grab a link via my iPad for some reason, but the source is Clarionproject.org "Al-Shabaab's State Sponsors Make Attacks Like Nairobi Possible".
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